Media Intelligence Analysis Restarting

[Kristian_Otero]

Hello community,

Wondering if anyone else has encountered this. Have not found any answers on this yet.

I always save my projects as a new version when starting a new edit session. When I do this, I've noticed that sometimes the Media Intelligence starts the analysis process again from zero. No media has been moved to another location. Working from the exact same drive and folder structure. The .prin and .prmi files are intact. Why is Premiere reanalyzing all the media from scratch? Very time consuming. Is there a way to manually relink these analysis files the same way I can relink media? 

Thank you.

[R Neil Haugen]

I have often done the iterative save process also. So I presume you're using Premiere's "Save As" option? 

[Kristian_Otero]

Yes, I'm using "save as" to version this particular project. Normally, I would duplicate the project file and rename it prior to opening it. In this case, I noticed that method was also causing the media analysis files to unlink.

[R Neil Haugen]

Perhaps those media intelligence actions use the specific project name? Hmmm.

@Kevin-Monahancan you get staffer comments or information on this?

[Stan Jones]

@Kristian_Otero,

What do you have set: Edit -> Preferences -> Media analysis and transcription -> Cache analysis for reuse? The choices are:

In the media cache

In a sidecar next to the media

Don't cache

See this post:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta-discussions/what-is-a-quot-prin-quot-file/m-p/15110...

@mattchristensen, I think the functions you discuss there are now in the release version. Shouldn't this mean, whatever preference is used, other than don't cache, that ANY project will not require reanalysis?

Stan

[Kristian_Otero]

Hi Stan. I have it set to 'sidecar next to media'.

[Stan Jones]

Thanks. And it has the .prmi file? Is its path different than in the original? I assume no and also, it shouldn't matter.

Stan

[Kristian_Otero]

That's right. The sidecar file has always been in the same location.

[mattchristensen]

@Kristian_Otero There are two stages to the overall Media Intelligence process. First the media file is analyzed and cached based on your settings, second its results are added to the project index (.prin).

When you do a Save As, this creates a new .prproj file but without a corresponding .prin file. So what you're seeing then is that second step being repeated. It's not that all the analysis is re-done, it's that Premiere Pro is going out to each of the .prmi sidecar files you have and indexing them into the new .prin file.

All of that is just an explanation, but obviously we can do better here. In Premiere Pro (Beta) v25.3 we have improved it so that when you do a Save As, we'll write the .prin file automatically to avoid even the re-indexing that you're seeing. So if you can, install the Beta and try your same exact steps. You shouldn't see any additional re-indexing just from a Save As.

[Stan Jones]

Matt, Thanks for that explanation, and the continuing improvements.

Stan

[Kristian_Otero]

@mattchristensen , thank you for explaining. The issue I'm seeing is that even after Premiere creates the new .prin file for the newly saved project, it still says my media needs to be analysed in order for me to continue using the search panel. It's not recognizing that I already have .prmi files for my media. Again, nothing has moved. Same location for media and sidecar files. Any thoughts on this?

[mattchristensen]

@Kristian_Otero are you talking about in the Search panel, there's a banner telling you that analysis is turned off, and a button to turn it on? We had a small bug there that is also fixed in Pr 25.3. The banner is supposed to let you know when there are clips not analyzed, but the bug is that in 25.2 it is warning you when the analysis preference is turned off. You can ignore this banner and try searching anyway, you should still see visual results coming up.