Text searches persist across sequences and clips, causing unexpected jumps around timeline

Good comments.

I was at a SMPTE class a year ago, and was with some people in major companies in an array of workflows. I think all in general vastly faster editors than me.

Yet they were so "siloed" in their practices that I actually knew a lot of production things they didn't. That was an eye opener for me, even after years of NAB shows.

Everyone's mileage always varies.

The issue at hand here is that the search persists between the source clip and sequence, not between multiple source clips. Certainly searching for a certain word across multiple sources might be useful, but I still cannot come up with a use case where I would want to search for a single word or phrase quickly and repeatedly across both sequence and source clips.

And for the record, explainer videos are pretty much my bread and butter.

You say poetatoe ... no, I can't agree.

It's simply a different usage, and why so many simply seem incapable of accepting the needs of others as valid is beyond me.

Your return comment indicated that you don't think someone with the other workflow would be hindered or annoyed at having the problem you are complaining about dumped on them.

Interesting perspective. If very human.

An easy example where you'd want this behavior is corporate 'splainer vids, where you have several people interviewed or talking about something and 'mash' them together. You need to check for certain word usages ... so then, yes, you would definitely want that Search to apply down the line.

In nearly all other use, this is a royal pain though ... so the question is how to set so that both types of user get what they need without extra hassles?

I have this consisently on 23.6.2 - if i have searched for a word in the text box and then moved on, the CTI will jump to that word at later stages, until I go back and delete the word. And for me I think I agree that the Text panel is often not at foreground and I'm doing something like cutting a section out of the current sequence.

For me, the workaround of not having "follow active monitor" is not useful as it's a pain having that off. Plus for me it's not about searching source and then record. Usually I'm searching in record, then it just keeps jumping back to that word at random points. 

It would be better if I had to click the down arrow to activate the search again once I'm finished with it.

When there is text in the transcript window search bar, the playhead in the timeline will frequently jump back to that search point even when I am no longer working in the transcript window. I have to manually clear out the search box to keep my playhead where I want it.

Version: Premiere 24.1.0

Platform: Mac

OS: Ventura 13.6

I have the same problem when switching between sequences. If I search in a second sequence - copy the text - switch to the main sequence - try to paste - but then the playhead jumps somewhere else - not where I was before, just because the same word I searched for is in that place. "Follow active monitor" doesn't change this behaviour. It is incredibly annoying. My workaround is to close and reopen the text panel - or just wait for it to crash, which happens a lot.

@kit.kohler,

> Can you describe such an example?

Nope! I can try to conjure one, but that is all it would be. I've discovered that there are often reasons for the programmers' choices, and feedback about workflows may result in changes - or not.

I just took a look, and (I think as expected) it is the same in the current Beta (I'm on 24.1.0.72) - the search word remains as you move from source to sequence to another source etc.

Stan

@Stan Jones While I agree that getting broad input is certainly important, I am trying to figure out a use case in which someone would want to be searching for the same word or phrase in both a source and the sequence in quick succession. It seems like a pretty extreme edge case. Can you describe such an example?

@Ryan Fritzsche Thanks for this workaround! I think that will help for sure.

Ryan,

This whole discussion is an illustration of the importance of getting broad feedback on different workflows. Speech to text, the new captioning workflow, text-based editing and more are still actively being developed, and staff cannot foresee all the workflows in use.

Your input is valuable.

Stan