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frogmike
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September 2, 2012
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4:3 safe margins for 16:9 video?

  • September 2, 2012
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Hi, its basically what I'm looking for, I can find 16:9 safe margins, but I'm editing 16:9 video footage that will be broadcast 4:3, I was wondering if there was an option somewhere for that?

I'm using CS6, thanks!

Mike

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Furman Roth
Participant
January 16, 2014

If you click on the drop down in the Program Window -and go to “Overlay Settings> Settings” there is an option to "Include 4:3 Safe Margins". That should do the trick.

    Steven L. Gotz
    Steven L. Gotz
    Inspiring
    January 16, 2014

    This is a pretty old thread. The OP was using CS6 and that feature was added in CC.

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    DrTc
    DrTc
    Inspiring
    April 1, 2021

    For some reason this is not available in AE.  An application for compositing where we constatntly change comp sizes for accomodating moving objects yet there is a need to have a visual cue of where 16:9 or other safe margins are.

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    excited_Genie16B8
    Legend
    September 2, 2012

    I'm editing 16:9 video footage that will be broadcast 4:3

    Letterbox it and don't worry about 4:3.

    Evil Edison
    Evil Edison
    Known Participant
    September 3, 2012

    Jim Simon wrote:

    Letterbox it and don't worry about 4:3.

    The 4:3 safe zone in 16:9 is handy b/c pretty much any commercial made in HD has to be designed for center crop 4:3. But if you know it's only going to 4:3, you're right, just letterbox and forget about it.

      josephs51576386
      josephs51576386
      Participating Frequently
      September 3, 2012

      I have always just exported one copy in full HD. Then exported a 2nd copy to SD 4x3 which is letterboxed. Then all the affiliate stations we FTP shows to that need SD 4x3 recieve our 4x3 program. Any station that request 16x9 HD recieves our 16x9 1080i copy. However every stations spec sheet varies.

      Currently the my workflow is generally to export a 1920x1080i (16x9) master copy, then export my 720x480i (4x3) master copy. 

      shooternz
      shooternz
      Legend
      September 2, 2012

      I dont think there is such a thng as safe areas for 16:9.  It is displayed  full raster .

      For Broadcast SD within 16:9  if I recall correctly 

      Set up preference :

      Title as 20% Horiz and 20% Vert

      Action as 10% Horiz and 10% vert.

      able123
      able123
      Inspiring
      September 2, 2012

      I think that because there are actually some 16:9 sources that aren't square pixels ( 1440x1080 vs 1920x1080 ? )

      http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/general-hd-720-1080-acquisition/86562-1440-x-1080-v-1920-x-1080-a.html

      that a good way to do your safety is actually a psd image with the exact dimensions youre dealing with ..and lines you draw yourself in the psd file for your safety with the right par in the psd file ..Bill Hunt I think has some images like that maybe already made up if he comes around to see this...

      You'd have to provide your source material dimensions, par and make sure you got the right project settings.

      Basically you'd have 2 safety issues..one for 4:3 broadcast, and another for 4:3 " titles " which is the safety WITHIN the safety...

      In other words, if they broadcast your 4:3 stuff analog ( like some public acess etc ) from digital , you will get some " blanking" on the right and left of your frame...which means you need to actually know the safety for THAT within your 4:3 aspect ratio.

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