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loopyumpa
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November 1, 2013
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5D III Cinema DNG not importing correctly

  • November 1, 2013
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When I import 5D III cinemadng's into Premiere 7.1, the footage comes in with a weird pink overlay. It's not just a tint shift, but some sort of color distortion. After Effects and Photoshop both read the file just fine via Camera Raw. Is anyone else having this issue or know any solution?

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Correct answer SteveHoeg

I talked with tech support on the phone and he had me Dropbox him a frame so he could take a look at it. I don't know when I'll hear back or if I will, but it's a start.


The Canon 5D MKIII doesn't make CinemaDNG files, these are specifically from MagicLantern. CinemaDNG is a huge spec, we targeted getting the colours correct from the BlackMagic camera first.

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Basem87
Participant
October 5, 2014

Hi all

I know this is too old now, but wanted to post what solved the same problem for me (the pink overlay)

In the RAWMAGIC app I set everything to 'AutoDetect' and it worked, I guess the problem was with the 'black level', it should be 'autodetect' unless you know what u r doing

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xaviermmmac
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February 4, 2015

Never too old! You just made my day!

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npfilms
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June 19, 2014

Premiere Pro CC 2014 now plays these Cinema DNG folders without the pink shift - looks great and no hiccups in playback using my iMac late 2013.  (some magenta colors in overexposed areas only)

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AtonMusic
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April 15, 2014

Try sending to Speedgrade via DirectLink. Then save the SG Project and re-open in PPRO - that should take care of the problem...

To Adobe... It is a real embarrassment that you cannot read a format developed by yourself !!!

SG and PPRO both... This is simply put - a total embarrassment

You develop a so-called UNIFIED RAW format so that this RAW world is less complicated. But then you write RED and ARRI specific RAW decoders with access to Metadata (NEEDED for RAW) ---

The CinemaDNG Implementation in PPRO doesn't spark ONE access to ANY metadata... Even with Black Magic cDNGs... No Exposure, No WB no NOTHING !!!

As I mentioned - this is totally embarrassing - for the INVENTOR of the format - PERIOD !

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Supermalex
Participant
April 15, 2014

I'm sure it would be easy for them to sumon ACR stuff in premiere just like with after effects. They must have some reasons not to do it... Maybe it's Canon who is paying them to hold on full CDNG support so that life isn't too easy for us magic lantern users! :O

rejdmast1
rejdmast1
Participating Frequently
April 15, 2014

Adobe is suppose to have a fix for Convergent Design's Odyssey 7's version of Cinema DNG in the next release.  Hopefully, Adobe will process DNG's files the same in all applications with the next upgrade.

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chmee
Participant
February 9, 2014

i think, i found a "recalculated way". 12bit linear with debiased blacklevel works quite good - i just coded the audio-convertion from mlv today. so take a look at raw2cdng 1.4.9 (raw&mlv)

http://www.phreekz.de/wordpress/2013/06/magiclantern-raw2cdng-cinema-dng/

regards chmee

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wat d hell editor
Participant
January 22, 2014

Hey Guys, i think i found a work Around to the Pink Cast!

I imported CDNG's in to AE used the ACR plugin then Saved project as

a CS6 AE project then, Start a new project in Premiere Pro CC

import the AE CS6 project , its links to the original cdng's

And import with the ACR adjustments with no pink cast.

But if you try and send your AE project to premiere the cdng's will

have the pink cast.

So when you save as a "CS6" project in AE you can continue on to edit etc..

I did this test on my PC, i have not tried it on the MAC.

Can someone  confirm this workaround please  :)

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Supermalex
Participant
November 2, 2013

Hi, I'm another magic lantern user making DNG from my 5D3, and I got myself premiere and speedgrade because of DNG support... and I'm kind of disapointed now that this support is only for 1 camera... it's weird, but we'll be patient hoping that you support 5D3 DNG files one day...

Meanwhile, I'll have to switch to Davinci resolve 10 which can do editing now.

Magic lantern users are a huge community, so it wouldn't be a smart move not to support us, For many of us working with premiere and switching to speedgrade was gonna be a perfect raw workflow.

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chmee
Participant
December 5, 2013

just to push this Thread and make it more vital.. It's really a pitty, that Adobe as Inventor of a "universal" picture-format can't cope with its own idea.

Suggestions:
(A) Use the (cinema)DNG-Attributes as they're written into the tif(dng) header.
(B) Give a Interface/Translator for color-matrices.

As its working fairly good in Speedgrade (but sadly not to link it from there to premiere), i state the dng-Importer in Premiere as Beta-Codeproof working merely with BMCC-Files. I dont want to squeeze/recalculate the magiclantern-raws to bmcc-like data - cdng-import cant deliver, what was promised with the idea of dng - by now

regards chmee

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Adobe Employee
Andy T2
Adobe Employee
November 1, 2013

To be very clear, for this 7.1 release, we are only supporting CinemaDNG media from the Blackmagic Camera. No other format is being supported at this time. The pink overlay problem with DNG derived from Canon RAW media is a known issue.

We are currently in discussions of how to expand our CinemaDNG support going forward, and user input is a vital factor. Nonetheless, Premiere support for the CinemaDNG format is different from the support in other Adobe applications. For more on this, see the section "Enhanced BlackMagic Cinema Camera support" at this link:

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/whats-new-7-1.html#Supportfornewcameraformats

-- Andy

-- Premiere Pro Team

SpaceCherryFilms
SpaceCherryFilms
Inspiring
November 1, 2013

thanks for clarification and acknowledging the problem. 

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npfilms
Participating Frequently
November 1, 2013

Cinema DNG is also not working correctly for me.  Similiar to what others have described, I'm seeing a strong pink cast on all clips.  They work fine when used with davinci resolve.  What is the most effective way to report this to Adobe in the hopes of a possible patch?

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loopyumpaAuthor
Participating Frequently
November 1, 2013

Hoping this thread gets enough attention for a staff member to get involved. I'm not sure how much good that will do, but other than that there is a feature request form.

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npfilms
Participating Frequently
November 1, 2013

I would recommend as many people as possible reporting this as a bug using this link:  https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

Select 'report bug' and submit.

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Bob Ramage
Participating Frequently
November 1, 2013

Yes, same issue for me using raw footage from the Canon 5d Mk III converted to Cinema DNG using RAWMagic: heavy pink tinting. I'm pretty impressed that I can play the Cinema DNG files smoothly and easily perform normal edits, but the pink overlay makes it unusable. Might be okay for an offline editing workflow using Resolve, although the pink overlay makes it difficult to see what you're working with. I'd be curious to know why Premiere isn't interpreting the colour information in the RAWMagic Cinema DNG files correctly, and whether or not the same issue occurs with CinemaDNG files from other cameras. Early days yet and the smooth playback is a good start.

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loopyumpaAuthor
Participating Frequently
November 1, 2013

I would hate to have to go through another program though. I was really excited about keeping everything contained within Adobe and giving Speedgrade a shot (now that the workflow is finally usable), but you're right, the pink is totally unusable. I just tried correcting it in Speedgrade. Impossible. It's just not reading it right. Sad that I'm considering switching altogether if Resolve can improve their editing features. I'm shooting mostly 5D III RAW at this point and Adobe can't find a way to support it when other companies can. Really hope this gets fixed soon, but seeing how long we've already waited for CinemaDNG support.......

SpaceCherryFilms
SpaceCherryFilms
Inspiring
November 1, 2013

What makes this even worst is Adobe CREATED CinemaDNG and it doesn't work correctly.  Sad.  Just sad.

    SpaceCherryFilms
    SpaceCherryFilms
    Inspiring
    November 1, 2013

    I have the exact same problem.  Resolve/After Effects/Photoshop have no problems reading the Cinema DNG file but for some reason Premiere Pro CC gives the Cinema DNG a pink overlay.

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