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kjetils30485119
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November 11, 2016
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aecap file still dependent on files from AE project?

  • November 11, 2016
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Hi,

I have created a AEcap file with lower third template, but when I tried using this in a production today, I got a color-bar-image with filename.psd displaying in the corner instead of the actual graphics. I thought the whole point of exporting the aecap file was that you no longer was dependent on the graphics files in the AE project. Is this not the case?

When trying to open the aecap file in AE I got an error message dialogue box (forgot to screen shot this). It seems as if this was released a little too soon?

Kind regards,

Kjetil

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    Correct answer Wes Howell

    jstrawn​ - have you had a chance to look at the bug I sent in yet?

    The problem only occurs when I export the sequence to Adobe Media Encoder.

    When I export using the export button in Premiere Pro, the aecap is rendered correctly.

    I have tried cleaning cache in AME, this does not help. I have tried renaming the comp in AE and exporting a new aecap file from this, this does not help.

    I have reverted back to using aep. Thank you.


    Hi Kjetil,

    Thank you for the detailed report.  You have indeed come across a bug that occurs with AME in some cases.   We are working on getting this fix delivered in a public update.   Thank you for your assistance.

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    Fabio Basone
    Participating Frequently
    April 20, 2017

    Jumping in on this conversation as i'm still a little confused...

    Are AECAP files supposed to contain all the external assets used to create it (i.e. graphics, audio, video etc)?

    Because it seems when you open an AECAP file in AE if you reveal source media in explorer it's stored in your CACHE folder

    If you delete that cache folder you lose your source media and your assets appear offline - i thought that was the whole point of AECAP files?

    Now Adobe has upgraded everything and you can no longer create AECAP f(Live Text Templates) files. Now you ned to create Motion Graphics Templates (MOGRT) files if you want to access them in PP. But can anyone confirm whether these files will contain all the assets within them or whether you need to export with your assets like you would if sharing an standard AE (AEP) project file?

    That would kind of defeat the purpose IMHO but that's what it seems like

    Thanks

    F

    Roei Tzoref
    Roei Tzoref
    Legend
    May 19, 2017

    Are AECAP files supposed to contain all the external assets used to create it (i.e. graphics, audio, video etc)?

    that's right. and as of 14.2 this feature is no longer available.

    If you delete that cache folder you lose your source media and your assets appear offline - i thought that was the whole point of AECAP files?

    I can't speak for the engineering team and all I know is from trial and error, but you are not supposed to open the aep file in Ae (it appears to be some sort of hack because in the help files it states that aecap cannot be edited after the fact) so anything that happens after that is a guess. maybe the cache file is created upon importing the file to premiere. not quite sure. 

    can anyone confirm whether these files will contain all the assets within them or whether you need to export with your assets like you would if sharing an standard AE (AEP) project file?

    the contain the assets, they are capsules of the whole media same as aecap used to be. but not free of other issues: Re: Breaking My Tools. :(

    K
    Kit F
    Participating Frequently
    December 7, 2016

    This bug is still happening.

    kjetils30485119
    kjetils30485119Author
    Inspiring
    November 24, 2016

    Just to be sure this had nothing to do with the .psd I am using, I quick exported a couple of the elements as png and deleted all of my psd graphics from the sequence in AE. Exported a new aecap. Used this in PP and exported to AME. The encoding process won't start, it just says "ready" in the status bar even though i've pressed play.

    back in PP, the png files have gone color bar.

    Wes Howell
    Adobe Employee
    Wes Howell
    Adobe Employee
    November 24, 2016

    Re:  Test file

    In this case, if you restart Pr the color bars should go away.

    The offline footage in Pr is also a result of the same core issue we have discussed when exporting to AME.  (that's what caused it)

    Please export directly from Pr (not through AME) as a temporary workaround until we can address this with a public patch.

    Thanks for your patience while we work to resolve this issue.  We are looking forward to making these fixes available to the public when they are ready.

    Thank you,

    Wes

    kjetils30485119
    kjetils30485119Author
    Inspiring
    November 24, 2016

    Nope, I didn´t. It only works when exporting directly from PP.

    I have tried creating a new project file in After Effects, redo the sequence and export a new .aecap-file. This is what happened when I tried importing the file to Premiere Pro: (2017.0.1)

    I don´t know what is worse. Not being able to use the file w/o After Effects as promised or not being able to export.


    Anyway, I installed After Effects and imported the aecap-file, put it into a sequence in PP and sent the export to AME. Same result. Color bars.

    Wes Howell
    Adobe Employee
    Wes Howell
    Adobe Employee
    November 24, 2016

    Hi Kjetil,

    Re: the After Effects missing dialog above.     

    You need to have After Effects installed in order to view / render the .aecap   Did you happen to uninstall AE at one point?   You mentioned that you installed After Effects next.  At this point, I'm assuming that you were able to import and view the .aecap in Premiere?

    We are aware of the issue when queueing to AME.   We are working to address this issue.  In the meantime as a temporary workaround,  please render directly from PR.

    Thank you for your report and for providing useful details.


    Wes Howell

    Premiere Pro QE

    kjetils30485119
    kjetils30485119Author
    Inspiring
    November 24, 2016

    I was under the impression that from now on, with the introduction of aecap, that you do not need an AE license - have I misunderstood the whole thing?

    kjetils30485119
    kjetils30485119Author
    Inspiring
    November 11, 2016

    This seems to happen when I export the sequence, this is from Adobe Media Encoder.

    When I return to PP, the same has happened here - color bar where a .psd file is expected.

    jstrawn
    jstrawn
    Legend
    November 12, 2016

    AME has nothing to do with Live Text templates or aecap files. You need to start with setting up a text template file in AE (using the tutorial I linked you to above) then you need to Export > Composition as Text Template from Ae. Then you will get an aecap file which you can import and use (without bars and tones placeholders) in PrPro. The aecap file will not be editable in AE at that point though. If you want to keep it editable in AE then use the original Live Text workflow described here: How to use Live Text templates from After Effects in Premiere Pro | Adobe Premiere Pro CC tutorials

      kjetils30485119
      kjetils30485119Author
      Inspiring
      November 12, 2016

      I did all of this. The AE composition is set up with psd-files and text layers.

      I exported this composition as an aecap,

      and imported the aecap file to Premiere Pro.

      I have sent this in as a bug as well, if you want to take a look at the files.

      jstrawn
      jstrawn
      Legend
      November 11, 2016

      .aecap files are live text capsules which are exported and not editable by After Effects after the fact. I'm not sure why your exported file does not look right for you, but it sounds like either user error or a bug. If you think you used it correctly, you should report it as a bug and include the .aep file and associated media you used to export the .aecap from.

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