AMD 6700xt worst performend then GTX 1070

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December 20, 2023
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I have questions about graphics card. I just upgraded to AMD 6700xt, coming from gtx 1070. Feels like my old 1070 have better performance in Premier pro. So I’m think about go back to my old 1070. Do any one have same experience?

I did a test and my Nvidia 1070 use 80% gpu power in premiere pro. And AMD uses 0-5% during playback. So that way AMD lagging super much!

I dont know if this a some problem with my PC or do AMD card dont use GPU in Premier pro playback?

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RjL190365

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In addition to what I stated above, AMD GPUs are also worse than equivalent Nvidia GPUs in debayering RAW codecs.

Put both of my posts in this discussion together, and I came to the realization that AMD GPUs simply do not reach their potential in content creation software programs. (I discovered this after testing the all-AMD system using the latest PugetBench for Premiere Pro, now part of the new PugetBench for Creators app – where it simply underperformed another system with the same Ryzen 7 3700X CPU but with a GeForce RTX 4060 GPU, which otherwise delivered lower GPU effects scores using the Standard preset than the RX 6700 XT.)

Gaming is a different story.

When I purchased that RX 6700 XT earlier this year, the retailer where I purchased it from didn't have any GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB cards in stock. Only the 8 GB versions of the RTX 3060, which had a neutered memory bus making them slower than the 12 GB versions.

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RjL190365

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Here's the problem:

AMD, unfortunately, chose not to implement OpenCL 3.0 or higher support in any of its GPUs. The latest driver for the RX 6000 and RX 7000 series GPUs only support OpenCL 2.1. And Adobe's OpenCL renderer incorporates OpenCL 3.0 features that AMD GPUs cannot currently use. As a result, those OpenCL 3.0-specific features get sent entirely to the CPU (in software-only mode).

And that's the primary reason why 8-year-old Nvidia GPUs often perform better than even current-gen AMD GPUs for certain types of renders.

MyerPj

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My 1070 was working fine in PP. I did upgrade to a 4070 a few months ago. It's certainly better than before, but I upgraded mainly for a different app (Topaz video), and there it is much better. But still as Ann said directly and all the other posts agreed with, Nvidia is preferred.

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WenenAuthor

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Is it only me that have this problem? Im not against AMD i'm just disappointed in the performance. Is there a fix?

R Neil Haugen

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It is unfortunately a long-standing issue with AMD cards. I moved from pro stills to pro video in 2013, and it was already an establised issue then.

AMD cards are apparently well designed for gaming needs. But though you would think that would be similar to video editing, it ain't ... by a long shot. And AMD cards have been panned in review after review for poor to middling performance in nearly any video-post app. And they've made little effort over more than a decade to improve their video-post performance.

Clearly, we ain't the market they're worried about.

Also distressing is their lack of concern for including a full equivalent of the Intel QuickSycnc H.264/5 hardware on their CPUs. As someone who's got a 24-core Ryzen, I knew going in it wasn't going to handle H.264 as good as an Intel CPU with QS. But ... I don't get that much H.264 to work, so I figured I could t-code or proxy at need.

And the 3960X was very good at most of what I needed for Resolve, Premiere, and AfterEffects. At a better price than the Intel of same performance. So ... I've got that AMD CPU, but went with the Nvidia GPU.

You have to know what to get for this stuff. Which most of us learned by getting a machine, and finding out it really sucks at pro video. I did, my first machine. An expensive ouch that was ...

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

R Neil Haugen

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I run a Ryzen 3960X 24 core CPU. With an Nvidia 2080Ti card. I don't do a lot of long-GOP so that setup works great for my needs.

But ... that was chosen knowing how different Intel/AMD CPUS and AMD/Nvidia GPUs function in both Resolve and Premiere Pro.

If you do much H.264/5/HEVC long-GOP workflow ... you should stay with Intel CPUs that have the Intel "QuickSync" hardware installed. Some don't, CHECK! If not, like me, or you're willing to t-code or proxy long-GOP media, then going for more fast cores for the buck with an AMD CPU is a usable choice.

Premiere is still better coded for CUDA support than the rough equivalent of AMD cards. So staying with Nvidia cards is wiser for Premiere users. Even Resolve tends to do a bit better with "equivalent" Nvidia cards compared to AMD.

So actually, for both Premiere and Resolve, it is normally best to stick with Nvidia cards still. Though the difference is less in Resolve, it's still there for some things.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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WenenAuthor

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What about AMD card dont use GPU in Premier pro playback? or does it?