Announcement: Changes to QuickTime DNxHD support in Premiere Pro 22.3

Adobe Employee ,
Apr 26, 2022 Apr 26, 2022

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In the latest release of Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Media Encoder, we have updated the way we create QuickTime DNxHD files. Here is a brief overview of those changes, as well as a history of updates to DNxHR files.

 

In the fall of 2020, we made significant changes to our support for DNx media. These changes included bug fixes and additional functionality, such as support for 12-bit DNxHR 444, and brought us up-to-date with the latest DNx specification from Avid.

 

The downside to doing this was that DNxHR media that was made in this new version of our apps could not be used with older versions. At the time, we were able to avoid making similar changes to DNxHD, and DNxHD files created with new versions still worked with old versions.

 

But... (you knew there was a "but" coming, right?)

 

After we made the changes, our friends at Avid told us that there were problems with the files we were creating – our DNxHD output was not working properly in the current version of Avid Media Composer. To fix that, we needed to make some more changes. Unfortunately, those changes affect the DNxHD workflow that we hoped to leave untouched.

 

So here's the scoop on DNxHD files starting in the v22.3 release of Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Media Encoder.

 

  1.  QuickTime DNxHD media generated in v22.3 or later will not be compatible with previous versions of our products – those files will be imported as audio-only.
  2. DNxHD SQ Thin Raster and DNxHD LB can no longer be exported with an alpha channel
  3.  The way we create alpha channel information has changed, so the interface has changed. QuickTime DNx alpha options are now "None" and "Compressed"
  4. We fixed a bug where some Avid DNx media generated by newer versions of Avid Media Composer would import into our products as audio-only. If your DNx media from Avid imports as audio-only, please message me here on the Community or reach out to us on Twitter.com/adobecare 
  5. DNxHD output from the 22.3 release and later will no longer work in the older versions of Avid Media Composer. We recommend either updating your version of Avid Media Composer or moving to a DNxHR workflow.

 

Hope this information helps you keep track of your workflow. Any feedback left in this thread will be brought directly to the formats team! 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 27, 2022 Apr 27, 2022

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Caroline,

 

Thanks for the direct data. Even if not all is as we would hope.

 

Quick question, run this by Lars (we've talked about it before). That's what data range DNx files are in for the DNx 444 RGB ?

 

Neil

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May 10, 2022 May 10, 2022

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Neil, you have received a reply from Caroline? Clarify the situation in DNxHD/HR and QuickTime.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 11, 2022 May 11, 2022

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No, I have not received a response from Caroline on this. Unfortunately.

 

@caroline_edits  ... how about checking that video-level/data-(full)-levels question for DNx in the "regular" forms, and the DNx in 4444 RGB with Lars?

 

Neil

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May 11, 2022 May 11, 2022

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An amazing woman ) I wrote and forgot.

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Adobe Employee ,
May 12, 2022 May 12, 2022

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Hey Neil & Baffy!

We forwarded these questions to the engineers you specified but haven't gotten a response. Everyone's been super busy recently! I'll send this out to the broader team and see if someone has some free time on their hands to reply here. I'll be honest, this topic is a little above my head so I'm learning as I go! 

 

Thanks for your patience,

Caroline

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 12, 2022 May 12, 2022

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Thanks, Caroline ...

 

Neil

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Advocate ,
May 12, 2022 May 12, 2022

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you 're welcome )

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New Here ,
Apr 28, 2022 Apr 28, 2022

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when I go to export a video the layout is now different and all the advance funcionalities for video exporting are gone???  How can I fix this?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 28, 2022 Apr 28, 2022

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No, they're still there. The layout is different, that's all. You know the way say the Effects bins, effects controls on the ECP, use drop-downs to open more controls? Same idea.

 

You select a Format, and preset. Then below that, there are tabs of options. Click on one it opens. Say you click on the Video tab, only see a few things. But at the bottom is the box with 3 dots and "More". Click the box, you get the rest of the options you're used to.

 

Also, instead of using this process, you can simply use the Send to MediaEncoder option which brings up MediaEncoder, and that still uses the old dialog.

 

Neil

 

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May 03, 2022 May 03, 2022

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i know! WTF why did they go all FCP X

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 03, 2022 May 03, 2022

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Probably because the M&E staffers determined from their metrics that this was what should be.

 

Always remember, the Adobe "product" teams work under M&E people ... marketing & experience, who divine the future from metrics. And I'm not joking, I've been interviewed by them both in-person and via Zoom. You think engineers are odd ducks ... !

 

Neil

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May 10, 2022 May 10, 2022

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Damn this marketing. If there was an opportunity, I would make a great Premiere product from my point of view and from the point of view of most users.

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Community Beginner ,
May 10, 2022 May 10, 2022

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Can you add a legacy DNxHD option in the output modules that would be compatable with older Avid versions please?

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Adobe Employee ,
May 12, 2022 May 12, 2022

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I can submit that as a feature request for you. You may also want to do the same on our User Voice: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com

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May 12, 2022 May 12, 2022

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Hey

 

Does this effect DNX .MXFs?  Its my personal go to format and have 1000's of files.

Will old 'verisons' of the codec still work in the latest release?

 

J

 

 

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May 12, 2022 May 12, 2022

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No, this only applied to QuickTime DNx files. 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
May 18, 2022 May 18, 2022

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Caroline, I think the answer is yes but can you confirm that previously recorded DNx Quicktime media generated in earlier versions of Premiere pro will still work in 22.3 and later. 

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May 18, 2022 May 18, 2022

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I can confirm that to be true. 

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