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Audio Source Patching

Explorer ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

I have a simple sequence (1 video track and 3 audio tracks) with a simple clip with audio that I dragged into the sequence. For some reason, when bringing the clip into the sequence, it wants to create a new sequence audio track instead of just going to audio track 1. I have all tracks highlighted, V1 source patch on track 1 but A1 wants to live on and create a 4th Audio Track!

 

I hope I'm explaining this clearly.

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Enthusiast , Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

Alright. First you have 4 chanels mapped to adaptive.

These can go only to adaptive tracks and on your timeline, only audio track 4 is set to adaptive.

If you really want to keep it adaptive, V1 must be an adaptive track.. 

To do it go to Add Tracks...( not  Add Track ) choose 1 track, select adaptive then select " Before first track".

Now you'll have it on V1 track. 

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LEGEND ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

Check the header menus, both the little wrench icon and the 3-bar icon. Also right-click on the A1 Source target block.

 

I'm on my phone and don't recall which has the settings you need to check.

 

Neil

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Explorer ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

Thanks for speedy reply. I clicked all the sub menus but didn't see a way to resolve my problem.

 

I've taken a few screen shots to show what I'm dealing with:

 

1. Here's my new sequence

1. New Sequence1. New Sequence

 

2. Here's the new sequence with the Clip being inserted. It wants to create a 4th audio track. I tried moving it everywhere but it just wants to place it in a new 4th audio track

Screen Shot 2020-01-17 at 5.51.46 PM.png

 

3. Here's a closer look at the audio source patching inserts and overwrites

Screen Shot 2020-01-17 at 5.51.56 PM.png

 

4. 

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

When you open this clip in the source monitor and clic on the waveform underneath, how many audio tracks does it contain ? 

Can you send a screenshot of your screen with the clip in your source monitor showing the audio tracks ans your timeline?

Use the " Insert photo" option when you replies in a large format please.

 

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Explorer ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

1. Clip Info showing 4 channels of audio

Clip InfoClip Info

 

2. Screen shot of Source Monitor audio of Clip

Source MonitorSource Monitor

 

3. Clip in Sequence

Clip in SequenceClip in Sequence

 

No matter what I do, that audio wants to live on Audio Track 4. I can't move A1 Source Patch up or down any other track like I can with the V1 Source Patch. 

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Explorer ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

Well, I found a hack around it but I hate hacks around something instead of understanding why it's behaving differently.

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

Alright. First you have 4 chanels mapped to adaptive.

These can go only to adaptive tracks and on your timeline, only audio track 4 is set to adaptive.

If you really want to keep it adaptive, V1 must be an adaptive track.. 

To do it go to Add Tracks...( not  Add Track ) choose 1 track, select adaptive then select " Before first track".

Now you'll have it on V1 track. 

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

I didn't ask you if you have clearly changed your audio tracks to adaptive for a certain purpose?

If not change them back to original.

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Explorer ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

Excellent answer!!! Thank you!

 

But know I have a couple of follow up questions:

  1. What is adaptive vs standard? Why would you want one verses the other?
  2. The audio on the footage came to me as adaptive. What doest that mean? Was it set in the C300 Mark II that way? and for what purpose?

 

Side note: This is a personal project and test so nothing mission critical.

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020

Have a look on this to fully understand adaptive tracks.

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/overview-audio-audio-mixer.html

 

I don't know for the C300 Mark 2. Are those files straight from the camera ?

If you want to change this, select the clip or many clips from the C300, right clic, Modify / Audio channels/ Preset and choose mono and you can change here the number of tracks.Choose 4 to have all your 4 channels.

Hope it helps.

 

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Enthusiast ,
Jan 17, 2020 Jan 17, 2020
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Adaptive tracks allows you to patch your tracks more easily when you export for broadcast TV for example.

Sometimes, you need to assign a track to multiple channels for example the journalist voice on Track 1 from the camera has to be patched to channel 8 and 9 for a mutichannel output . With adaptive tracks, you can easily say: Ok, I want track one from my camera with the journalist voice to be patched to channel 8 and 9 on my output as requested by the broadcast TV network guidelines. And so on.

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