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August 8, 2019
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Can't export to 2.35.1 ratio (720x306) to disc?

  • August 8, 2019
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Hello again....

I created a sequence with 720 x 306 so I can give my footage a cinema widescreen look...  original footage 720 x 480. (don't laugh)

But the only PPro export to disc settings are 16x9 ?  920x1080 bluray or 720x480 for dvd.

I can't make variations on the export to disc ratio?

There are all kinds of possibilities exporting to video files, but seems restricted going to dvd or bluray.

Please tell me I don't have to add fake black bars to my footage

Thanks,

Letty

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Correct answer Ann Bens

DVD is 720x480. End of story. No way to change that.

Just drop the sequence in a 720x480 timeline.

It will give you black bars top and bottom.

Export to mpeg2-dvd (depending on the authoring software: with or with multiplexer)

On a side note even if you could export with 2.35 you will still have black bars top and bottom on your tv which assuming is widescreen and not super wide.

Does not matter if the tv produces them or the disk.

4 replies

Legend
August 9, 2019

Here's the reason: Compatibility (with standalone DVD and Blu-ray players). A disk that's been authored with video that's of nonstandard dimensions, such as what you're trying to author, will become completely unplayable in any DVD or Blu-ray player (if such a disk could be authored). And not only that, but an error message will be displayed that the disk or video is not supported.

Letty2019Author
Legend
August 9, 2019

So, unlike video computer files....  any authored movie that is on DVD or Bluray, MUST be a certain size only... for PPro disc creation:

DVD must be 720x480

Bluray must be 1920x1080

Any variations of the actual image inside those frames, must have black bars burned in with the image to 'fill in' the emptiness.

Does that all sound about right?

Letty2019Author
Legend
August 9, 2019

If anybody is reading this....  Ann is right about the bars...  But having the black bars in your timeline, adds a ton of time when exporting Media to disc.

but... I found a way to export w/ bars much faster.

1) Create the 16x9 frame / drop in your footage.

2) Use an Adjustment Layer and "Crop" top and bottom. Any size you like.  You can still 'move around your footage' to frame it better.

3) Before you export Media, REMOVE the Crop in the adjustment layer and render (if needed)

4) Use the Crop in the Media encoder to crop the top and bottom.  You'll have to do the math on the size, but the Media encoder crop feature has numbers input fields for accurate cropping.

5) Then que it up to AME.  Use "rendered files" and AME will create new bars at super speed.  IF you don't use pre rendered files,  it takes forever to encode.

Why this way?

For some reason, IF you leave the crop in the PPro timeline, AME takes 10 times longer to process it.  Not sure why, I tested twice and got same results. Even when I rendered in the black bars and clicked 'use rendered previews'  AME still took forever. But when Media encoder makes the crop and still using rendered files....  Kaboom! Super fast processing to disc.

I'm using DV, not sure how your heavy duty 4K footage will do, but safe to try this out.

I'm not one to give anybody advise, because I'm still learning, but this worked out for me.

Thanks again so much for all the advise and help!!!   I couldn't do a dam thing without the help here.

Best,

Letty

Legend
August 8, 2019

Cinemascope projects will have the bars "burned in" when authored to any disk format.  No way to avoid that.

The only way to get just the image is a computer file.

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 8, 2019

Well even it you would play a real cinemascope file on your computer full screen you would still have black bars.

Letty2019Author
Legend
August 8, 2019

yes, but in regards to exporting to disc....  there is no way to just encode only image?  I have to encode black bars as well? 

I can't believe all these filmmakers are burning black bars into their projects for final disc 16x9 output? 

Letty2019Author
Legend
August 8, 2019

oops, I mean I did an export to dvd and when I viewed the file, it had the black bars burned in.

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 8, 2019

Letty2019  wrote

oops, I mean I did an export to dvd and when I viewed the file, it had the black bars burned in.

That is what i said.

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Ann BensCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
August 8, 2019

DVD is 720x480. End of story. No way to change that.

Just drop the sequence in a 720x480 timeline.

It will give you black bars top and bottom.

Export to mpeg2-dvd (depending on the authoring software: with or with multiplexer)

On a side note even if you could export with 2.35 you will still have black bars top and bottom on your tv which assuming is widescreen and not super wide.

Does not matter if the tv produces them or the disk.

Letty2019Author
Legend
August 8, 2019

Hi, my PPro Savior.....

well, I took my 720 x 306 sequence, and dropped into a 720 x 480 sequence, did an avi export...

and the black bars are burned into the export.

I was hoping to just have image only.....  did I do something wrong?