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Inspiring
October 31, 2016
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Copy a Nest and be able to edit it without changing the original nest

  • October 31, 2016
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Hi All

Anyone know if there's a way to copy/duplicate a nest and be able to edit it without changing the original nest?

I created an animated lower third, nested it and thought I'd be able to use it as a template, only to find out that when I changed the title in the nest copy, it also changed the original nest.  And to be perfectly clear, I did use "new title based on current title" when I stepped into the nest copy.

My work-around (just so I get the project delivered) was to just not include the title in the nest.  Obviously I know you can duplicate a sequence and edit it without affecting the original so why not a nest?? 

I've been on Premiere Pro CC for about 3 months now but after 18 years on Avid Media Composer I was used to building lower thirds, collapsing them into submasters, copying and pasting them, then just stepping in and changing the text.  So I'm a bit baffled that I can't seem to find a way to accomplish this.

Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.

Correct answer AlteredDom7

ok...I tried copying and pasting the nest in the project window and for some reason it didn't work...but what DID work was DUPLICATING the nest within the project bin, then dragging it into my sequence and swapping out the title!  So for me the answer was DO NOT copy and paste a nest WITHIN a sequence...duplicate it in the project window.

So thanks so much for the "project window" suggestion!

Have a great day!!

8 replies

Participant
February 8, 2023

I just found another way if it hasn't been mentioned here.

1 Duplicate nest in Project window

2 R click the duplicate - New sequence from clip

3 Make whatever changes in the new sequence

4 Drag the new sequence back into the original timeline/sequence.

You can do the same for nests inside nests too. Yippe.

Art Cave
Participating Frequently
January 6, 2023

This solution is working without error for me. https://youtu.be/ypAXQH049f8

 

cmplcr
Participant
October 9, 2022

Just tried this in Premiere Pro 2022 22.6.2 and didn't work. In my case I had nested sequences within the nested sequences. I had to create a new project only with the target secuence to duplicate (cloning template). Then copied and pasted from one project to the other. However I would first have to rename all sequences, videos and elements (added a # at the end) so that when the paste was done it created a new separate instance which I could edit freely. I hope there is a better way but that's how I solved it as a newbie on this.

Inspiring
December 31, 2022

Just 10 minutes ago, I was looking for a solution to this problem for the 50th time.
Thank the God I found someone in Internet who know how to do that in a simple way!
I checked and it works.

Correct solution:
https://motionarray.com/learn/motion-array/duplicate-elements-premiere-pro-templates/

Here is a video explaining what and how.

Out of respect to the author who solved our problem, I am giving a link to his website instead of copying what he wrote in his tutorial.

Happy new year 🙂



Participating Frequently
June 9, 2023

you... thank you.. so much. and much respect for sharing original tutorial

Legend
April 14, 2021

You could always just open the nest in its own timeline, change the text, and export it (as ProRes probably, with alpha if you need it). Keep that timeline as your template. Then just keep changing the text and rendering, and importing back in.

 

I'm thinking specifically of the folks that mentioned their Motion Array template here... of course this isn't actually what you're asking for, but will do the job. Those templates can be very complex and confusing to track which part is nested where. It can be done, and I know how to do it, but with stuff like that I'd rather not. I just did it the render way in a similar situation in After Effects... had some stock aminations I bought and comps were precomped into precomps fifty layers deep... and I just wanted the same animation twice with different text. It was so much faster to just type, render, retype, rerender.

Participant
November 26, 2020

It's bugged though. Duplicating the Bin nest for me not only misses the effects added to the sequence, it also splits the content of the nest into different tracks.

Legend
February 27, 2021

Anyone find a solution for this?

 

I'm stuck in copy/paste/rename land with nested sequences.

Mo Alani
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 31, 2016

i just did it on my system, try to copy paste the nested sequence in the project bin

AlteredDom7AuthorCorrect answer
Inspiring
October 31, 2016

ok...I tried copying and pasting the nest in the project window and for some reason it didn't work...but what DID work was DUPLICATING the nest within the project bin, then dragging it into my sequence and swapping out the title!  So for me the answer was DO NOT copy and paste a nest WITHIN a sequence...duplicate it in the project window.

So thanks so much for the "project window" suggestion!

Have a great day!!

Mo Alani
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 31, 2016

yes i mentioned that in point number 3 in my first comment

glad it worked for you

you have great day !

Mo Alani
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 31, 2016

when you duplicating the nesting, you are not duplicating the Title.here is what you have to do :

1. put the graphic in a Sequence and the title .

2. nest the sequence .

3. duplicate  the nested sequence and the first title in the project window.

4. open the second nest sequence and drag with holding ALT the duplicated title to the title position in the timeline to replace the old title .

now when you edit each title will be separately  .

Mo Alani
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 29, 2017

Most welcome!

Inspiring
October 31, 2016

AlteredDom7 wrote:

Anyone know if there's a way to copy/duplicate a nest and be able to edit it without changing the original nest?

In the project panel, select the original nest and duplicate it, then drag or edit the copy to the timeline.

If you have a title in the original nest that you want to modify it for the copy, even if you use the "New Title Based on Current Title" you'll need to replace the old one with that newly created title in the nest copy - using "New Title Based on Current Title" never replaces a title, it only creates a new one.

MtD

Inspiring
October 31, 2016

Thanks for your response...guess I should have mentioned that yes, after creating the new title I lifted the old one out and put the new one in...the result is that my original nest now had the new title as well...that's the problem!

I have done more searching since I posted my question and found that when you copy a nest it is "linked" to the original nest...which so far means I can't do what I thought it would do!

Inspiring
October 31, 2016

Try the method I posted. My nests (original and copy) are not linked and can be edited independently - at least on my system.

MtD