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ChrisKonjian
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November 12, 2021
Question

Editing Sony FX3 footage.

  • November 12, 2021
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Is anyone else having difficulties editing Sony FX3 footage on their Premiere Pro timelines?

I'm using the latest version of Premiere on a 2020 Mac Mini M1 16GB RAM and my Sony FX3 footage are in 4K 29.97fps and 120fps put on a 1920x1080 25p sequence "25fps to match another main camera".

I had a similar problem before where my files used to glitch while playing them back or even rendering and the glitches where appearing on exports, that was fixed when Adobe Support team asked me to start Premiere using Intel mode which somehow sorted my problem back then. But now, I cant even read the playback altho no settings in camera has ever been changed. This is frustrating to be honest and I would really like to find myself a permenant solution. 

 

Thanks.

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5 replies

February 14, 2024

Just finished a documentary and now I am trying the performance when I transcode everything to Prores. I am using a 12TB software-Raid0 configuration of two WD RED 6TB, so I get read or write speeds of about 360MB/s (of an EMPTY drive, it will become slower when it fills up). Prores 422 UHD 50p should be around 1000Mbit/s or 125MB/s, so I will see if this works for me. Using an SSD for smaller projects would be ideal, but for a documentary those file sizes become too huge.

February 14, 2024

So Apple Compressor does very well, it uses the full write speed of about 350MB/s and still only uses 5 percent of the processor power.. But it would still take 9 hours for the whole drive to fill with prores.. and it will get slower towards the end. Thats where a fast m2 SSD will speed up massively. But 12TB could get quite expensive.

February 14, 2024

at first glance the timeline is quite snappy.. even from two standard HDDs and softraid.. And I only needed less than 4 TB for all footage.. so even a 4TB SSD could be enough.

February 13, 2024

Same here on an Apple M2 Max with 32GB ram. Playback works somehow but editing without transcode is a pain. Resolve and FCPx have MUCH petter performance. 

Be sure that you DONT have the Sony plugin installed, it slows down playback massively and even converts 50p into 25p on playback and export. And you cannot remove it frome the files once you imported your files with the plugin activated.

Participant
July 26, 2023

yes im having troubles. it is lagging so much. These are 4k 10 bit 4:2:2 files and it is the first time i have used them and the footage is just not ready to run smoothly. I have spent a full day with support trying to work out a way with no joy. can really use an experienced techs help

R Neil Haugen
Legend
July 26, 2023

Sony XAVC is typically long-GOP media, which is more difficult in editing and grading. Though machines with Intel QuickSync equipped CPUs (I think it's called) do better than others.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 29, 2022

Yes, Warren is suggesting transcoding to an "intermediate" format. A common practice over the years for working with media that is hard to use due to format/codec issues on playback. And the Sony is oft recorded to disc in a long-GOP format. Which is a bugger to edit from.

 

So ... make t-codes while not at your computer. Use those in the project, and when done, dump the t-codes as you can recreate them at need.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Community Manager
November 13, 2021

Hi ChrisKonjian,

 

We're sorry about the poor experience. We can get this checked. Let us know if you have used 4:2:2 10bit files in your timeline/project.

 

Thanks,

Sumeet

ChrisKonjian
Participating Frequently
November 14, 2021

Hello Sumeet,
Here is a detailed description of one of my video files:
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High 4:2:2@L5.1
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1 min 1 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 140 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Bit depth : 10 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.563
Stream size : 1.00 GiB (94%)
Encoded date : UTC 2021-11-07 20:27:42
Tagged date : UTC 2021-11-07 20:27:42
Color range : Full
Metas : 6
Codec configuration box : avcC


Now after transcoding to proxy I got able to playback the files but very strangely, the image brightness is differing between Proxy Toggled files and Original footage. I am kind of confused which one of them is my final output therefore am afraid to color balance on proxy and have a bad result of original files which I can't playback.
I have checked the original and the converted files in their file directory and they have no brightness difference, it is only appearing in Premiere.


Seems like Premiere doesn't really like the FX3 Sony camera and we're paying the price of that, it's slowing my work process very much and causing me a delivery delay and changing my work calendar.

Thanks and sorry for the hasstle.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
November 14, 2021

Looking at the Color Range data ... full. Did you set full range in the camera? I don't know about that cam and what settings it might have. That shouldn't be 'full' for a 10-bit YUV file.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...