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February 8, 2018
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Exporting a Completed project for color correction without original Media

  • February 8, 2018
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Hi,

Im looking for a way to Transfer a Completed project for Final Cut Pro X into Adobe Premiere Pro CC or Resolve 14 for Color Correction without having the original Media.

Basically a friend of mine who lives on the other side of the country is looking for me to color correct a bunch of short 1 minute videos that he has made. Instead of him having to upload the project and all original media to Drop Box or other file sharing platform, is there a way that he can export the final video as well as an XML file and for me to be able to reopen that project but still access the project as individual clips for color correcting as opposed to only being able to correct the whole video as a one. I have found ways to do this easily with the original media but none without. My goal is to limit the size of the files that we will have to exchange back and forth through a file sharing platform. Any suggestions or help is Greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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francis-crossman10980533
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
February 10, 2018

You will want to media manage your project, which basically reduces it to just the regions of the source media that you are actually using (with handles preferably).  Unfortunately, I am not certain that you can do this in FCPX (somebody please correct me if I am wrong).  So the very first step is to get your project out of FCPX and into Premiere (or better yet, edit your project in Premiere - but hey, I work for Adobe, so you'd expect me to say that - right? ).  Unfortunately, FCPX uses a propriety XML format that is not compatible with Premiere Pro. There is a clever workflow that uses Davinci Resolve as an in-between.  You import the FCPXML and then export a standard XML that PPro understands.  This is a bit tricky and unreliable in my experience but it's free so worth a try. There is a great paid tool that I recommend called XtoCC which can convert your FCPXML into a standard XML PPro can understand.  Once it's in PPro you can use the Project Manager to Consolidate and Transcode your source media, reducing it to just the regions of the source clips that actually got used.  For a 1 minute video it could just be a few hundred MBs - totally dropboxable (did I invent a new word?). Your editor will have to do this on their end I assume.  Zip up the whole folder that this process generates and dropbox it.  You get a PPro project with all the media, graphics, audio etc. and you're off to the races.  You would then color correct and create the final deliverables on your end.

francis-crossman10980533
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
February 10, 2018

There are several different ways to approach this.  If you are talking about short 1-minute videos, I bet you could avoid having to transfer/ship all the raw content.

Here is a very manual, but easy to understand approach.

  1. Have him disable all graphics and render out a flattened movie file in a high-quality format (Prores 4444, probably 422 is good enough for a web series) - this is your "Clean" version (without graphics)
  2. Also render out a movie with all the graphics and everything for your reference (can be less quality, small file - it's just for your reference) some editor choose to burn in timecode to this version, but you probably don't need to - this is your "Dirty" version (with graphics)
  3. Dropbox/ google drive/ whatever - get these two files
  4. If it's truly a 1-minute video, you can probably "notch" the file by hand
    1. drop the Clean version it into PPro onto V1
    2. drop the Dirty version into PPro onto V2 - but turn the visibility off with the track eyeball
    3. go through the Clean version and manually add an edit with the blade tool at every edit point. You are just going to find these the good old fashioned manual way - just watch the video.
    4. if there are transitions, add a dissolve that is the same length as the original transition.
  5. Now you can color correct each individual clip.  The transitions you put in there will dissolve the color correction effect between the clips too.
  6. Throughout this process, you can always compare to the dirty version by turning the track visibility back on V2 - but be sure it gets turned off before you render.
  7. Render out your masterpiece and send it back to the editor
  8. He then lays back in the graphics and renders out the final version.
  9. Collect Emmy!

This is by no means the only way to do it, but possibly the easiest with the least amount of messing about with media management, XMLs and such.  Of course, if you really want to go that route, I can explain a few different approaches. Naturally, the manual notching approach only makes sense for very short pieces.  If there are tons of edits, it's going to get really old really fast - at that point and XML solution will be essential.

reaphotoAuthor
Participant
February 10, 2018

We actually tried a test of that procedure the other day and it worked pretty well. Granted it was a 1 minute video with hlthe most basic of transitions. If we were to want to transfer a much long video or go the XML route, what would be the other possible procedures to try and accomplish this?

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 8, 2018

If you send a project (xml) without media project will be offline and un-editable.

reaphotoAuthor
Participant
February 8, 2018

Is there a way to export the full completed video, and then reopen it and be able to see the individual clips?

R Neil Haugen
Legend
February 8, 2018

I know that SpeedGrade (now officially EOL, sigh) had a method for auto-detection of scenes, where you could have it auto-cut and then do some manual adjusting. That doth have it's limits, especially dealing with video transitions. You then need to make a cut for the frame before the transition begins, one a frame after the transition, and using a process start with one correction and blend out to the other correction ... and it mostly sort of works. I've seen people do this on a single track, but more that dupe sections and place them above each other ... one with the grade going out, the other in, and blend the two clips for viewability.

It's been a while since I've done that myself, Ann may have more experience with it.

If Sg can read you media, you could try installing the last Sg version (available from the previous versions options in the CC app), create a project & import that media into Sg, and do the auto-correction/manual-cleanup process there. Export a high-quality file out of Sg, set to export clips not a full sequence, import those clips into PrPro, recreate the sequence, and grade then.

I think Resolve has a similar tool for auto detecting clips out of a long bit of media.

There isn't anything in PrPro that I can think of to do that, however.

Now ... putting the media on an SSD or old-style spinner & shipping it just might make more sense.

Neil

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