Exporting and Color management

Hi @MasonDrummond @dandesousa - Checking in, Are you still having issues?

Thanks @jamieclarke, I've shared a Google Drive folder with you now containing sample footage and my project file. Also included export files so you can see the over exposure occurring in the exported sequence with scaling applied.

Here's a screengrab of my export settings from this project

Hi @dandesousa - would you please send me one of these files with a project, so that I can take a look.  You can email a link to jamiec@adobe.com 

can you also post screenshot of your export settings.

Tried this on another project, same result @jamieclarke - if there is any scaling at all, it doesn't matter if the color space settings are correct on both edit and export, the exported HDR footage will over expose and blow out. If there's no scaling, it renders and exports fine

HI @MasonDrummond - When you say macbook pro second gen, which exact model do you have?  

There is a bug in version 25 where Premiere has always exported clips as Rec709, even if your color space is set to HDR it will only export as Rec709.  To get around this bug you need to use the HLG presets in your case since that is the color space you are exporting for.  This has been fixed in 25.1, so just to be sure as long as in your export settings (not the summary) you can clearly see which color space it is exporting to, you will only get Rec709.  

Can you try 25.1 which is the current beta version and let us kow if you get the same results?

The only thing would suggest be different is the Graphics White setting be left at the industry - typical 203 nits setting. Other than that, it looks correct.

So I'm wondering about the Macbook's screen ... is it actually fully handling the HLG exported file?

How do the exports look on re-import into Premiere? If they look the same as the sequence did, then ... there's something outside of Premiere that's off.

And could you share a clip for me to test on my rig?

Alright per your request here are screenshots with different presets and formats. The one that has been working for me is HEVC match source HLG. Mind you I can't do any color grading or it blows the colors and exposure out of proportion.

The color looks the most correct. If you refer to my other photos in another comment you will see I have no color grading going on, and my color manegmant settings are correct as far as I know.

And regarding your suggestion to try other presets, which ProRes preset are you referring to, there are a ton, be specific if you dont mind.

It could be, like R. Neil pointed out, a limitation of HDR on screens but I find that hard to believe in my case since I have a new macbook pro that should be set up for this format and encoding considering I shoot with an Iphone 15 pro max. I would think Apple would've fleshed that out across their devices by now. Of course I could be wrong.

I am open for any advice here. This bug, or whatever it is, happens with all my clients footage shot in HDR. I am a video editor and run my own youtube channel, so this does impede my work. I have now considered shooting in LOG to be able to color grade better. Only problem is the file sizes will be excruciating. 

Like I said I am open to any advice.

Hello I am on version 25. I am using a Macbook pro second gen.

I've had this happen to me to once. Or even with text layers, it'll over expose

Thanks @jamieclarke, I'm already exporting as Apple ProRes 422, export color space Rec 2100 HLG, and the HDR video is fine as long as there is no scaling.

Within my video I scaled a couple of clips to 102.5% and 106% to match the size of an object in shot for a jump cut and they were the only ones affected by over-exposure, the rest of the video exported as HDR without any issue. I've removed the scaling and exported the whole clip successfully without the over-exposure.

For some reason it seems scaling the clip changes it's color space, but only on export - while playing back my timeline in editing the color looks fine