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FAQ: Prior major releases of Premiere, Audition, Prelude and AME have been removed

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November 18, 2017
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It looks like Adobe has just pulled many of the primary installers that were available for previous major versions of Premiere Pro, Audition, Prelude, and Adobe Media Encoder (AME).

Notably the following base releases are now gone, and not currently available to customers via any means (whether using the Creative Cloud Desktop app or through direct download links😞

— Premiere Pro CC 2015.3 (versions 10.3 & 10.4 – June 2016)

— Premiere Pro CC 2015 (version 9.0 – June 2015)

— Premiere Pro CC 2014 (version 8.0 – June 2014)

— Audition CC 2015.2 (versions 9.2 & 9.2.1 – June 2016)

— Audition CC 2015 (version 8.0 – June 2015)

— Audition CC 2014 (version 7.0 – June 2014)

— Prelude CC 2015.4 (versions 5.0 & 5.0.1 – June 2016)

— Prelude CC 2015 (version 4.0 – June 2015)

— Prelude CC 2014 (version 3.0 – June 2014)

— Media Encoder CC 2015.3 (versions 10.3 & 10.4 – June 2016)

— Media Encoder CC 2015 (version 9.0 – June 2015)

— Media Encoder CC 2014 (version 8.0 – June 2014)

Note that this loss affects all revisions from these three years (2014, 2015, and 2016), because without the base installers available, none of the minor version updates can be installed either.

Can't say for sure why this happened, but it could possibly be related to the recent change in CC application support for the Dolby codec.

One of the great promises of Creative Cloud is the ability to use any version of the CC apps that you desire or require. This is especially important for video customers, who are urged by Adobe experts to install and maintain multiple CC versions and to always re-open their .prproj files with the exact same versions of Premiere with which they were created, no matter how new or old. This is for compatibility reasons.

Updating and Backing Up Premiere Pro Project Files: Best Practices

The loss of these major releases could also be a big issue for customers who cannot upgrade, for example, due to changed system requirements or newer versions that their current hardware cannot support. They will not be able to access or reinstall older versions of their software.

Adobe also sometimes drops features or functionality between releases, and says that if you want to use the discontinued feature, then you need to go back and install/use the previous version.

If you would like to have these three years of CC releases restored, then the most likely path to having that happen is to let Adobe know how important these are to you (their customers) – so please share why you want or need them...

Please add your feedback below, and/or click "I have the same question" underneath this text.

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nareshc32444716

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How Can i download premiere pro cc2014 ?

ProDesignTools

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Community Expert

Very sorry, it is still not possible...

The situation at this time has not changed since the original post above.

kealee94706

Participant

Adobe needs to consider being more customer service oriented. People will end up being wary of upgrading for fear of the inability to go back if need be due to older projects or computer compatibility. Good service will generate more profit in the long run just look at what happened to avid and finalcut pro when they focused solely on selling the newest to the richest.... The educational and independent markets are huge and loyal- think about it adobe.

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excited_Genie16B8

Legend

People will end up being wary of upgrading

You should be. Always test out new versions on a second system.

Kaxmerkhoff

Participating Frequently

Just to voice my anger, I copy-paste from my own post in another thread.

This is a huge problem. I have several projects that are running on different Premiere versions, which cannot be upgraded/have to stay on the same version for various reasons. e.g. It used to be simple to revert back and forth between versions 11.0.2 and 11.1.2.

Why can't original functionality be restored on the CC downloader app? This would be extremely important. I know several editors around me who are having these exact same problems as I do. Direct download links would help, but original functionality would be even better. The only reason this is a problem is because projects from newer cc2017 can't be opened by all other cc2017 versions. For obvious reasons, all non-up-and-downward-compatible versions should be made available for all. Image this would be the case with PSD files? That whoever is running last years Photoshop, has no way of opening files created on newer computers? Avid can do it too.

once you do have the downloader (maybe through an alternative source), I did find a temporary workaround, that for now exceeds my expectations: It is possible to have several installations of e.g. cc2017. On OS X, through Time Machine it is possible to "restore" an older installation, while keeping the current installation as-is. When entering time machine and finding the "right" old version just restore and then click "keep both". Up until now it works without major problems, only the media-encoder link breaks for the older versions. but i can live with that.

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Peter J Burn

Participating Frequently

It's sad Adobe removed access to 2015. One of our PCs got upgraded to 2018 in stealth mode it seems. Fortunately it is dual boot so the CC 2015 on the Win10 Partition is intact. CC 2018 is bloatware that does not play well with BCC 11. Maybe time to go back to AVID MC.

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Media Editor

Inspiring

I have never understood why some Premiere users feel the need to upgrade or update as soon Adobe makes them available. Users should know by now that there are usually problems.

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frangeli

Participating Frequently

Don't you agree with me that none of the two things happened?

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frangeli

Participating Frequently

AAAAARGGH!

I wrongly updated Media Encoder without asking not to uninstall the older versions and now I'm stuck with a project I cannot render.
Hate you Adobe, Hate you, hate you, hate you.

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frangeli

Participating Frequently

SHAME ON YOU ADOBE FOR HAVING REMOVED THE CC 2014 INSTALLERS.

Since you weren't satisfied with removal of multiprocessor render option since 2015, adding instead some useless gpu accelaration of the dumbest plugins (invert? mosaic? come on..); now you kill productivity of people like me, who LIVE using (and paying, since 2006) yer tools.

Thank you very much, I wish you all the best.

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Dave Merchant

Legend

Microsoft made promises about Windows 10 too.

We promise to provide regular updates
We promise to make you install them, or else.

In the industries I work in, for any mission-critical software it is normal practice to keep copies of every version of the installer packages that have been used, so a system can be rebuilt 'to date' as part of an investigation. Nowadays this is even more important, as you can't guarantee that the vendor will do what they say - or even still exist. Vendors large and small vanish on a daily basis, change their policies, close websites and 'lose' purchase records.

In the good old days when you bought Photoshop in a box, or downloaded it as a standalone DMG/MSI file, it was easy to put a DVD into the safe every year. with the serial number written on. Adobe seems intent on making it as difficult as possible with CC, and it only adds weight to those who have been arguing against subscription-based licenses since the get-go. How long before people who did manage to save the installers for CC2015 will find that the desktop app refuses to activate them??

Forcing everyone to use the latest thing is only an option if the latest thing is 100% fault-free and backwards-compatible. That never happens, not with Adobe, not with Microsoft, Apple, not with anyone.

Stan Jones

Community Expert

This is the only post I saw that provided this reason for this issue despite the dolby patent ending:

Re: Revert to previous version of Premiere Pro?

"...although the patents for the Dolby AC3 decoder expired (which is the reason for Adobe's move to native OS support for playback of Dolby Digital AC3 audio), the licensing fees for the AC3 encoder was raised substantially, and Adobe could no longer incorporate the AC3 encoder in CC 2018 or the currently available download version of CC 2017 without increasing the monthly rental fees significantly above the current $50 per month (for the entire Creative Suite)."

Is this any official source for this?

Because the previous Cloud versions are subscription, I suspect Dolby's argument is that they are still due licensing fees if they include their decoders/encoders.

ProDesignTools

Author

Community Expert

Hi Stan, thanks for the link and possible explanation. But if Adobe removed it and reissued CC 2017, then it should be pretty straightforward to do the same for the previous releases as well.

On that same thread, Sue_Zan404 wrote:

I accidentally updated Premiere and it completely ruined my project; the entire clips are in the timeline, rather than just the few seconds I had trimmed, the main audio no longer fades when a secondary audio track begins, and EVERYTHING is way different from how I had aligned them.
I honestly never update Premiere, because it always does this, so I was using the 2015 version, and now the 2018 version won't even open the project! How do I revert back to the 2015 version of Premiere, which is the only version that actually works properly?

This is why Kevin and best practices say, "maintain multiple versions and only open and work on a .prproj file with the same version of Premiere that created it."

But unfortunately, the CC Desktop app changed its default behavior two years ago to remove all previous CC versions when updating... Which is why the loss of access to these prior releases is all the more problematic now.

Steps needed to keep previous versions installed when installing CC 2015 applications

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excited_Genie16B8

Legend

My guess is that this is something beyond Adobe's control. To get the older versions back, Adobe would probably have to recode the software to remove Dolby functionality (as they did with 2017.1.4), which I'm not particularly in favor of them doing. I'd prefer they spent their time moving forward.

ProDesignTools

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Community Expert

Jim, if so, then it's definitely within Adobe's control. Since they already completed that work for CC 2017 as you note, then it could be a relatively easy and quick affair to reproduce it in the three preceding versions. Maybe a few days of work by an engineer, not a particularly costly proposition.

Compare that to the countless hours saved and problems avoided by thousands of CC customers benefiting from having access to those major releases.

And as Kib points out, another reason these are really important is because often your client is running a prior version throughout their shop... Not everybody can upgrade all the time, especially in organizations. So they want you to work in that particular version. Or they demand deliverables in that older release's file format, because project files are not backwards compatible between versions.

But you as an All Apps Creative Cloud subscriber don't happen to have that version installed on your system... oh no. Which would now mean that you can't do the job, you just lost that business.

The complete version collection as a whole provides very significant value and utility to customers, as well as having been promised to them all along.

Express your feedback directly to Adobe here – with product "Adobe Premiere Pro":

https://www.adobe.com/go/wish

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excited_Genie16B8

Legend

it could be a relatively easy and quick affair to reproduce it in the three preceding versions. Maybe a few days of work by an engineer, not a particularly costly proposition.

You could be right. Fact is, I don't know if that would need to happen, or what it would involve. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't actually know either.

Point is, it's looking back. I'd still prefer Adobe spent their time moving forward.

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