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Kevin-Monahan
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October 8, 2021
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FAQ: Video Effects Order and How it Affects Your Visuals

  • October 8, 2021
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The order of effects processing matters a great deal to the final visual of your video if your clip has effects added to it. One way to change the order of effects processing is to drag them into a new order, where one effect might take precedent over another. Another way is to nest a clip, and then add the effect to the nest, not the clip.

 

See this article by Neat Video to explain more about this concept.

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Participating Frequently
October 17, 2021

Hey thanks for the super helpful reply. I'm not sure how I missed that thread. I haven't quite mastered the search function on here. The Information you shared above is great. I have been reading all you shared here. In this you explained everything very well. Thanks I am going to bookmark this https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/faq-video-effects-order-and-how-it-affects-your-visuals/td-p/12440212-855-area-code.

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October 10, 2021

How Visual Effects Work in Film: A Guide to the 4 Types of VFX?

May be this is helpful for you, https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/how-to/add-effects-video-clips.html-results

Peru Bob
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October 11, 2021
R Neil Haugen
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October 9, 2021

Order of Processing is so often a problem and rarely understood by many users. Great article!

 

A summary of Premiere's typical processing order ...

 

The Effects Control panel shows everything pretty much top down in each section, Video and Audio.

 

So in Video, if you've got say Warp applied, then added Lumetri, Warp gets processed first, Lumetri afterwards.

 

Within many effects, like Lumetri, the order of processing is by top-down within the controls.

 

Within Lumetri, the tabs are processed in order, with the top control of each tab going first within the tab. The one tab that works differently is the Curves tab. The RGB Curve tool is processed first, then used as the input for each of the other HSL curves in that tab. Essentially the equivalent of a "parallel node" in node-based apps.

 

The top-down processing of the Basic tab gives an interesting use of the Exposure slider against the Contrast slider. The Contrast control "pivots" on the exact middle 50 value on the 0-100 scale. Shadows and highlights both go out from the middle value. But if you use the Exposure slider to lift or drop the image, you control where the middle of the image is when the Contrast control becomes active. And therefore the "pivot" point of the Contrast control.

 

Adding instances of effects (whether Lumetri or any other) to a clip 'stacks' the effects in the ECP in the order added, and you can drag/drop them to change the order.

 

Again, all effects on a clip will be processed essentially top to bottom.

 

Now ... Adjustment layers add an interesting twist. Because they are also, within themselves, top-down. However, they are processed after all effects applied directly to the clip are processed. So if you have a Lumetri on a clip, and a Lumetri on an AL, the clip Lumetri is processed then the AL Lumetri instance.

 

If you have mulitple ALs, say on video tracks 2, 3, and 4 ... the clip effects are processed first. Then the effects on the AL for V2 ... then the effects applied to the AL on V3 ... and then the effects applied to the AL on V4. Got that?  😉

 

Nesting also adds a twist. The effects applied to the clip before nesting are processed first, in top-down order in the ECP. Then the effects added after the nest are processed in top-down order.

 

Finally, I recommend ... if you've got the REAL heavyweight effect Warp applied to a clip ... after getting the the Warp "right", do a render & replace operation to a good codec. Get all that heavy processing done and FINISHED so Premiere and you can simply get on with the rest of the work.

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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October 11, 2021

 

Finally, I recommend ... if you've got the REAL heavyweight effect Warp applied to a clip ... after getting the the Warp "right", do a render & replace operation to a good codec. Get all that heavy processing done and FINISHED so Premiere and you can simply get on with the rest of the work.

 

I tried this with a clip that has Warp on it - the clip already analyzed.

 

After Render and Replace, the clip was replaced with .mxf file but now has the blue "New frames need analyzing" band across it even thought I can see the clip, after playback, that it is indeed stabilized.

 

How do I get rid of the band? Also, a follow-up question: are there ideal settings for when one is selecting the Source, Format, or Preset when using Render-and-replace?