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Inspiring
August 26, 2021
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H.264/H.265 Formats that use hardware decoding in Premiere -

  • August 26, 2021
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I found this on Puget systems site.  Full credit to them.  This explains alot of why my drone footage plays well, while my Canon R6 plays poorly. 

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
September 10, 2021

Adobe's engineers have just added some more to the HEVC support equation if you have the right Intel CPU. Details of the public beta HEVC additions in the following link to their public beta forum.

 

Neil

 

Discuss: Hardware Acceleration for HEVC on selected Intel CPUs

 

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Inspiring
September 11, 2021

Neil, 

Thanks for posting the link. I have nothing aginst AMD but when it comes to Premiere Pro I have to recommend Intel CPUs with an IGPU because of the Quick Snyc features.  I don't doubt Abode has an M1X chip and Alder Lake CPU for testing purposes. I think we should see some benchmarks soon. I think Window 11 hits the stores next month. 

Inspiring
August 28, 2021

That chart should be a sticky that we can link to if people are having problems editing video from a drone or DSLR camera. Not all H.264/265 is edited the same. Having said that I would like to think Premiere Pro will take full advantage of the 10nm Adler Lake CPUs. Some leaked benchmarks suggest it will be a huge improvement over the old and wornout 14nm chips. 

Inspiring
August 28, 2021

I am sure most people are hip to the benefits of Nvenc and Quick Sync but if not the video below might be helpful. I think they both work great but I admit I would like to see more H.264/265 variations supported ASAP. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L-erwmRxAU

Inspiring
August 27, 2021

That chart should be handy to have. I always post that Nvenc and Quick Sync cannot play all the odd variations of H.264/265. I don't doubt in another 2-3 years they will support even more variations of H.264/265. 

Andy UrtuAuthor
Inspiring
August 27, 2021

Go over to Puget systems and look at the codecs supported by Resolve. With Gen 11 Intel CPUs, quick sync suports ALL of the various codecs. 

I sure hope Adobe gets moving on this. 

Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 10, 2021

I'd say you're in the minority if all you do is work on feature films. Lucky you. And it still doesn't address the fact that Premiere Pro is clearly lagging behind it's direct competition. In any industry that's what we call a bad thing.


I'm not sure it's ever a bad idea to follow the standards set by broadcast, cable, streaming, and feature film; be it for smooth and fast post-production or a good paycheck.

Last I checked, Final Cut Pro only supports native H264/H265 if it's been recorded on an iPhone (which should be supporting shooting ProRes soon); otherwise, it's converted to ProRes for both Optimized and Proxy making it easy to edit on just about any Mac even with modest amounts of RAM.  Avid Media Composer converts H264/H265 to DNxHD upon ingest and that very process is what's made Media Composer a very stable platform and industry standard for decades.  Resolve only offers acceleration if it's the paid version.  GoPro acquired Cineform to provide good editing CODEC and support ProRes.

 

Even the better implementations of H265 are not meant to be used from start to finish in a workflow.  And most H264 is low bitrate, low color depth, long GOP, interframe, shallow PSNR... what am I missing?

There's no shortage of issues in these forums and the Resolve forums that go away with transcoding to a CODEC that's good for editing.

Participating Frequently
August 27, 2021

Hi @Andy Urtu,

 

We have enabled Hardware Acceleration decode of HEVC/H264 4:2:2 10 bit on Mac ARM systems in the latest Premiere Pro Beta builds. We will also look into other platforms.

Please download the latest Premiere Pro Beta build from Creative Cloud --> Beta apps --> Premiere Pro (Beta)

https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/creative-cloud-public-beta.html

You can have a look at the announcement here: 
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta/discuss-hardware-acceleration-decode-for-4-2-2-10-b...

 

Please let us know how it goes for you. 

 

Thanks,
Mayjain

Andy UrtuAuthor
Inspiring
August 27, 2021

Thank you the update on ARM 4:2:2 10 bit. 
can you share if there are plans to add this to the PC version?

 

Participating Frequently
August 30, 2021

Hi @Andy Urtu,

 

Yes.. there certainly is.. We are looking into it.  We will update you when it's enabled on windows also.

 

Thanks,
Mayjain

R Neil Haugen
Legend
August 26, 2021

Thanks for posting this .... very useful information.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...