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Inspiring
August 26, 2021
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H.264/H.265 Formats that use hardware decoding in Premiere -

  • August 26, 2021
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I found this on Puget systems site.  Full credit to them.  This explains alot of why my drone footage plays well, while my Canon R6 plays poorly. 

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
September 10, 2021

Adobe's engineers have just added some more to the HEVC support equation if you have the right Intel CPU. Details of the public beta HEVC additions in the following link to their public beta forum.

 

Neil

 

Discuss: Hardware Acceleration for HEVC on selected Intel CPUs

 

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Inspiring
September 11, 2021

Neil, 

Thanks for posting the link. I have nothing aginst AMD but when it comes to Premiere Pro I have to recommend Intel CPUs with an IGPU because of the Quick Snyc features.  I don't doubt Abode has an M1X chip and Alder Lake CPU for testing purposes. I think we should see some benchmarks soon. I think Window 11 hits the stores next month. 

Inspiring
August 28, 2021

That chart should be a sticky that we can link to if people are having problems editing video from a drone or DSLR camera. Not all H.264/265 is edited the same. Having said that I would like to think Premiere Pro will take full advantage of the 10nm Adler Lake CPUs. Some leaked benchmarks suggest it will be a huge improvement over the old and wornout 14nm chips. 

Inspiring
August 28, 2021

I am sure most people are hip to the benefits of Nvenc and Quick Sync but if not the video below might be helpful. I think they both work great but I admit I would like to see more H.264/265 variations supported ASAP. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L-erwmRxAU

Inspiring
August 27, 2021

That chart should be handy to have. I always post that Nvenc and Quick Sync cannot play all the odd variations of H.264/265. I don't doubt in another 2-3 years they will support even more variations of H.264/265. 

Andy UrtuAuthor
Inspiring
August 27, 2021

Go over to Puget systems and look at the codecs supported by Resolve. With Gen 11 Intel CPUs, quick sync suports ALL of the various codecs. 

I sure hope Adobe gets moving on this. 

Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 10, 2021

Warren, 

You wrote the following below. 
I'm not sure it's ever a bad idea to follow the standards set by broadcast, cable, streaming, and feature film; be it for smooth and fast post-production or a good paycheck.

Broadcast standards are good for playback on broadcast compliant hardare but there is no need to follow the the 1902 X 1080i aspect ratio, frane rate and resolution for websites and social media. 

You also wrote the following below. 
Last I checked, Final Cut Pro only supports native H264/H265 if it's been recorded on an iPhone (which should be supporting shooting ProRes soon); otherwise, it's converted to ProRes for both Optimized and Proxy making it easy to edit on just about any Mac even with modest amounts of RAM.

FCPX can edit H.264 from my A7 III and my Canon Vixia without transcoding. Having said that Adobe should want Premiere Pro to be the best NLE for broadcasting and Social Media. 

Last but not least.
Resolve only offers acceleration if it's the paid version. 

That lets you know people want it are are willing to pay extra for it. People are already paying more for Premiere Pro than the paid version of Resolve. Do you kind of see my point? 


Maybe I should have said, "broadcast post-production best practices" rather than standards to avoid confusion with ATSC, NTSC, and PAL broadcast standards.  1080i is the delivery setting for broadcast and it's usually some flavor of MPEG.  

 

Yes, FCP supports many camera formats for import; however, the workflow is that Optimized and Proxy media will be generated for fast editing and picture quality.  Red, AVC-Intra, and iPhone are supported for source, edit, and export workflows without generating Optimized media.  With any of those, however, if there's an unexpected issue the first recommendation is to use ProRes.

 

I'm not sure I see how paying or not paying for video editing software makes a CODEC appropriate or not appropriate for a particular workflow.  Along those same lines, if Premiere Pro doesn't support a person's workflow, then don't use it. 

 

 

 

Community Manager
August 27, 2021

Hi @Andy Urtu,

 

We have enabled Hardware Acceleration decode of HEVC/H264 4:2:2 10 bit on Mac ARM systems in the latest Premiere Pro Beta builds. We will also look into other platforms.

Please download the latest Premiere Pro Beta build from Creative Cloud --> Beta apps --> Premiere Pro (Beta)

https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/creative-cloud-public-beta.html

You can have a look at the announcement here: 
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta/discuss-hardware-acceleration-decode-for-4-2-2-10-b...

 

Please let us know how it goes for you. 

 

Thanks,
Mayjain

Andy UrtuAuthor
Inspiring
August 27, 2021

Thank you the update on ARM 4:2:2 10 bit. 
can you share if there are plans to add this to the PC version?

 

Community Manager
August 30, 2021

Hi @Andy Urtu,

 

Yes.. there certainly is.. We are looking into it.  We will update you when it's enabled on windows also.

 

Thanks,
Mayjain

R Neil Haugen
Legend
August 26, 2021

Thanks for posting this .... very useful information.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...