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trashcaneron
Inspiring
January 14, 2022
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H265 Editing Bugged in Premiere 2022

  • January 14, 2022
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I have a fuji XT3 that shoots 10-bit H265 / HEVC video files. Until CC 2021, you had to transcode those H265 files to a different codec in order to edit the files. With CC 2021, the H265 files seemed to run fine - sometimes they'd be a little choppy, but for basic editing, I didn't need to transcode. I could even scrub the footage most of the time. I know I should transcode, but keeping the footage small means I can fit a lot more footage on my internal hard drive. 

 

Fast forward to CC 2022, I started a new project with new footage. Premiere won't even playback H265 footage in Premiere anymore. Sup with that? Opened up an older project and have the same problem. The older project, the footage worked fine previously. 

 

This all using the same hard drive with consistently speedy read / write speeds. 

 

Dumbing the quality in Premiere also doesn't seem to work.

 

I'm installing a previous version of Premiere to see if that solves it. Groan. 

 

** update **

 

Opening the same file with previously confirmed functioning footage does work in Premiere CC 2021. Version 15.4.1 runs the HEVC / H265 footage in Premiere passibly. Premiere 2022 does not. I have reverted back to 2021 for Premiere. 

 

Creating a new project in CC 2021 (15.4.1) with new H265 footage also works just fine. 

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Correct answer trashcaneron

FYI Premiere Pro 22.3.0 (mid april release) works with HEVC finally !! nice 

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trashcaneron
Inspiring
May 1, 2022

Unfortunate twist: After Effects 2022 is now having extremely poor performace with HEVC files. Can't even use Lumetri at 4k resolution and expect quick rendering... Thought we've already been down this path...

Participating Frequently
May 23, 2022

Same problem here. I can't even get smooth playback on XT3 1080P .x265 footage anymore. Edited with it just fine in 2021. Software issue.

 

I'm on 22.4.0 MAC

Participating Frequently
June 1, 2022

An update here. I just went and downloaded the latest beta to try and get smooth playback on my xt3 footage and it crashes just trying to rearrange windows. 

 

It's a bit of an insult to have someone from Adobe say "These 10-bit 4:2:0 files are rather "bleeding edge," so support for them might be spotty right now." this is just ridiculous. I've been editing these files with 2020 & 2021 just fine. the xT3 came out in 2019 so there is nothing bleeding edge about it.

 

 

Community Manager
April 1, 2022

Hi @trashcaneron @Andy 1968 ,

 

Sorry for this problem regarding Fuji XT3 media files. We have fixed this in the latest beta builds and this is also on track to be available in normal builds. We will update you soon.

Meanwhile, you can download the latest Premiere Pro Beta build from Creative Cloud --> Beta apps --> Premiere Pro (Beta).
https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/creative-cloud-public-beta.html

Please let us know how it goes in the beta build.

 

Thanks,
Mayjain

trashcaneron
trashcaneronAuthorCorrect answer
Inspiring
April 22, 2022

FYI Premiere Pro 22.3.0 (mid april release) works with HEVC finally !! nice 

Participating Frequently
June 2, 2022

No it doesn't. It won't work with anything shot at 50fps and slowed down within premiere..eithwer interpretted or speed changed. 

 

The 4k x265 shot at 25fps plays back fine but it can't play 1080P50fps.

 

I'm on a mac and it doesn't work in Prem 2022 or the latest beta. The latest beta is too unstable to use for work.

Inspiring
March 1, 2022

Someone else had a similar problem. If it worked and no it no longer does the Quick Sync or Nvenc could have cut out. Even if Quick Sync and Nvenc are enabled they can cut out. You would have to check your stats to see if the GPUs are encoding or decoding as seen in the video link below.  

trashcaneron
Inspiring
March 1, 2022

Hmm I'm on a Mac. This problem is cross platform. The files work in 2021. They do not work in 2022. 

Inspiring
March 2, 2022

Is Quick Sync working? 

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 14, 2022

Hi canvokey,

Sorry for the frustration. I've seen this issue more than once lately. These 10-bit 4:2:0 files are rather "bleeding edge," so support for them might be spotty right now. I would transcode them for now in a pro post-production workflow. I do know that full support for these files is on the roadmap, however, I cannot share any details on that as the topic is out of my purview.

 

Right now, I believe engineering does not have hardware decoding for these files, as they do for other flavors of H.264/HEVC, so their performance is rather dependent on CPU and less so for your GPU (unlike other Long GOP files that might be supported for hardware decoding). The product team typically introduces innovations along these lines in Beta first, so I would keep an eye on upcoming versions of the feature there.

 

Thanks,
Kevin 

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
trashcaneron
Inspiring
February 4, 2022

FYI anyone else with this issue.

 

Premire 2021 still plays H265 files just fine on intel machines. 

Premiere 2022 doesn't play H265 files very well on intel machines. 

Premiere 2022 plays H265 files just fine on M1 machines.

Premiere 2022 running in Rosetta on M1 machines plays OK, but not great (better than intel). 

 

What I've learned here is now you have to try Premiere 4 different ways to find out which works in which scenario. Maybe it's time to have one-ring-to-rule-them-all? Or a QA team, that, you know does QA.

 

trashcaneron
Inspiring
February 4, 2022

JK that was all a lie. After spending more time with it... 

 

PR 2021 is still the only way to go for H265 HEVC. Bummer.