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I have to render again everytime i reopen Premiere Pro 2017, why ? solution ?

Forum|Forum|8 years ago
June 17, 2017
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The bar above the clips is yellow again after reopening although before saving last time the bar was all green after rendering. Happens everytime i reopen premiere pro

Hecubus114

Inspiring

Add me to the list of people annoyed by this. In my attached video, you will see a project with rendered previews on my timeline. I show how in the project settings, most of the options are set to "same as project". When I save and close Premiere Pro, then immeadiately reopen it to the same project, no rendered previews are loaded. This is especially problematic because these previews take a LONG time to render (warp stabilizer, noise reduction, etc.). Here are my machine specs - but, as stated by others, this is an issue I've battled with for years over different machines.

Mac Studio

Apple M1 Ultra

OS Sonoma 14.5

Video_Previews_Problem.zip

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Just as a practical matter, I normally recommend when using video noise reduction or Warp, that one work that effect to completion ... then rather than 'render previews' ... do a full render & replace to something like ProRes 422.

This way the heavy processing is done and will not affect any further work. You can always "restore" if needed, of course. But playback, further effects, general editing, and especially exports will go so much faster, smoother, and reliably.

Again, simply a practical suggestion.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

Hecubus114

Inspiring

Yes, I can see that... but is this not the sole purpose of having video previews? If I'm willing to wait for these clips to be rendered ONCE so I can continue editing smoothly (vs exporting them, waiting for that to finish, then importing them into my project), that in iteself would be worth doing. But not if I have to redo it EVERY TIME I close and open the project.

Like... where are my rendered previews going when close and reopen Premiere? I basically do what you describe out of habit after all these years (if I really want to see the effects active in the edit - sometimes it's needed for placement of graphics on a stabilized clip, for example). But I shouldn't have to... right?

There's plenty of workarounds. It's just annoying and I wish I knew how to make it work correctly.

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Aprime15999888

Participant

Some of you guys treat this bug like it's device-specific, but I've been experiencing it accross multiple machines with sufficient storage. It's been a known problem since I've been professionally editing. The preview files themselves are still there and can be chronologically dropped off on the timeline depending on how you rendered them, but Premiere can't seem to pick up on the fact that *the files are there*.

It happens regardless of the version of Premiere or the drive it's on (same as project or a secondary drive on my system). It would be easy to explain away with the "drive is not available" theory, except the drives are always available, and when they're not, it's fairly easy to decipher the problem.

It happened with cineform as a work format and it happens with prores, it doesn't seem to matter what I work with, it just happens. I'll grant that I don't work with compressed footage, though, so maybe you don't allocate enough time for drives to be read (nvme drives, but filesizes could play into it?), maybe it's something else, just please for the love of God test your software.

Warren Heaton

Community Expert

Hi @Aprime15999888

Sorry to hear you are experiencing an issue.

I use Premiere Pro daily and have not had this issue. I am currently using 23.6.2. Which version are you on?

Have you tried uisng a mezzanine CODEC? These can function as their own preview file in the Timeline.

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PARAGON36138930s7bi

Participant

I also have this same issue, i'm a documentary film maker and this is my second doc editing in premiere and ive just gotten used to rendering the whole thing every time before I start, but it's getting so annoying that i'm considering using a different editing program. Its very annoying to do that for an hour long film with lots of effects. my scratch disk/preview files are not the issue, they are on a 12tb hard drive which is also the destination drive of the project file etc, it's got numerous TB of space. it's the same thing as all the other posters described, regardless of i rename the file or just hit "save" the next time i open it i have to re-render EVERYTHING. I'm using an apple computer and version 14.9.0 of premiere

zeitlosmedia

Inspiring

I'm having a similar issue with my feature documentary.

It seems, over a certain length, Premiere fails when loading the project/timeline and just pretends I have no rendered previews.

EVERY TIME I restart Premiere I have to re-render the previews for the entire timeline, not just the effects. My timeline is 1 hour and 47 minutes long, and it would be nice if I could open my file and playback my film in the timeline when starting fresh from a reboot...

2024, and still no solution Adobe???

R Neil Haugen

Legend

No details means no real help available sadly.

OS/CPU/RAM, specific number.number version of Premiere.

And the project uses what sort of storage, local, NAS, what?

Old-style stand alone project, or a Production?

(And for that size of project it of course should be in a Production.)

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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gregory31113881ebvl

Participant

Call them they will sort it I had the same issue it’s a settings migration issue

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gregory31113881ebvl

Participant

Hi I had the same issue after update called a free fine number for Adobe the very kind man to remote access of my computer and fix this issue

call them up it’s a settings migration problem I am a happy man now I hope this helps

julianm44443758Author

Inspiring

Thank you all for your answers, I'll look into it. Another problem that I haven't really get an answer from Adobe is that although my 4k compressed mp4 video files upload fast within seconds to my computer from my harddrive , it takes about 5 minutes (and now often stuck so i need to reboot my computer) for those same mp4 or mov files to upload from my external harddrive to Premiere Pro. What is the solution ? I have 16 bg ram in the computer and and changed the ram for other application from 5 to 8gb suggestion from Adobe when I called, which helped and the usb port from harddrive to my computer is is 3.0. But its still aweful. Thanks for your help in advance.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Premiere Pro doesn't move files from drive to drive ... so it's not 'uploading' anything. If you're talking time after using the Media Browser panel to select, then right-click/Import the media ... and five minutes before PrPro is done with cache files, that's what it's doing ... making cache files.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

julianm44443758Author

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Neil you seem to have a lot of knowledge. So to try to clarify your answer from the solution's perspective to a layman : So when opening Premiere Pro and while media browser automatically starts to upload the video files, in order to make the upload more effective, I should right click somewhere ? or uncheck cache files box somewhere ?

Ann Bens

Community Expert

Do you need to render?

Red, yellow, and green render bars and what they mean « Premiere Pro work area

(I do not have a solution for lost render files).

julianm44443758Author

Inspiring

Off course I need to render otherwise the footage is choppy when the bar is yellow even at 1/4 of a resolution

jones1351

Participating Frequently

Jim's advice is spot-on. Using the long-GOP heavily compressed media of most DSLR's is a right b-tard on hardware when you have the needs of an NLE for cutting/selecting bits of media here & there. Nothing to do with PrPro being "bad", it's the nature of the media. The spendy high-end rigs that colorists use don't even handle 4k long-GOP well. In anything.

The ProRes and other intraframe media in 8k normally plays back in an NLE easier than 4k long-GOP H.264 or mov.

And as to the yellow bar, even on my desktop editing rig, I rarely have green above my sequences ... and even with 'full' media in say 1080 with some grading & cutting, I rarely have a dropped frame even though the whole sequence is covered with a yellow bar.

That's a warning of possible dropped frames.

Neil

Coming to these forums can be frustrating. I've read thru these answers and found nothing that could help this person. Nothing.

The question asks, 'why do I have to re-reender an already rendered timeline each time I re-open a project?' [I'm noticing the same thing, BTW. This didn't used to happen, which is par for PP.] No one had a straight answer. Just ridiculously complicated stipulations and 'work-arounds'. I HATE work-arounds. The program should just work.

Adobe pushes their many problems off on the end user - like it's something WE did wrong. Then quietly - behind the scenes - the problem magically disappears and the program returns to normal functioning. I repeat, this green line back to red didn't happen before. Once green always green. There's a fly in the pudding.

I read, Adobe is coming on board with Blender. Honest to Darwin, my first reaction was oh no, please don't.

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