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Participating Frequently
March 29, 2023
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In and out point sets out point 1 frame too far

  • March 29, 2023
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When I set my in and out point in a zoomed out timeline with clips on only one track, the out point consistently gets set 1 frame in to the next clip, so I get 1 frame from the next clip in the end of the exported video.

Correct answer Ann Bens

Lasso clip(s) then hit forward slash.

In and out with one keystroke and no extra frame on the end.

 

Edit: big typo

16 replies

Known Participant
March 30, 2023

I've imprinted this in my mind as long as I can remember. It works the same for (some) other editing software as well.

My way:
1. Put the playhead somewhere behind the last clip in an open area

2. Arrow up (to make it stick to the end of the last clip)

3. Arrow left

4. Press O

 

I agree it can be confusing to people who don't know (especially when the client requires you to export without black frames at the front and end). However, it would make it extra confusing when programmers would change this workflow, since it's the norm.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 29, 2023

NLE design 101 ... which can be awfully and confusingly obfuscated.

 

The CTI ... current time indicator, or playhead ... is ALWAYS attached to a frame, it's not a divider between frames. As technically, there are only frames on a video sequence, no 'between frame' exists.

 

So the CTI is always connected to the next (following) frame. You can even see this if you zoom in on your timeline enough ... a blue bar appears on the top of the CTI's right side, showing the frame it is attached to.

 

And yea, this is blasted confusing until you really understand and remember it.

 

The up/down arrow actions go to the previous or next clip ... see the problem there? Hit down arrow, hit O, you've set the out point at the end of that frame ... one frame past the clip you were expecting to end on.

 

There's also a keyboard short, go to last frame of current clip ... find it, use that one.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 29, 2023

Use forward slash after selecting clips.

Participating Frequently
March 29, 2023

Why on earth should you want it to function like that? Say I have multiple clips on my timeline that i need to export out one by one. Then i quickly set my in and out point by selecting I and O. Why would I want to select more than the actual clip?

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 29, 2023

Known Participant
February 11, 2025

I also find this frustrating and for some reason my Windows PC Adobe Premiere does not experience this and I can export an in/out selection without a black frame (my main purpose for using these in/out points) but my Mac system moves forward one frame, forcing me to remember these black frames and cut back one frame. It is genuinely so frustrating.

This should have a checkbox setting in the Premiere Settings -> Timeline tab.

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 29, 2023

This is not a bug.

How do you set your in and outpoint.

If you set your playhead on the end of a clip, then set the outpoint (O) it will be placed on the first frame of the next clip.

 

Use the left arrow to set outpoint one frame back.