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May 20, 2025
Question

incorporating Avid proxies

  • May 20, 2025
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Hi,

I work with a colleague who cuts on PP while I am on Avid (a hangover from past lives).

Currently, we are working on a music documentary, and I have started.  The thing is, I created proxies in Avid (Apple Pro-Res), and the way Avid does things it creates a separate video and audio file for each original file (the proxies generally share the same filename, though there is a signifier for one being video and the other audio), and while in Avid its architecture allows for the reading of both files at the same time.  Not being an expert on all this, but I believe PP would have made a single file containing both video and audio.  

Ok, it is what it is.  But if I pass the work over to my colleague (with an AAF file), then he says that PP cannot read/coordinate the two files produced in Avid now while it's in PP.  

How to solve this issue?

 

Thank you,

D. 

 

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
May 20, 2025

You are correct, Premiere would create a single ProRes proxy with audio. And to be honest, I have heard Avid users complain of this at NAB ... as it makes all sorts of issues with cross-app workflows. Personally, why they separate the two is a puzzlement, but we're only users, right? Whaddawe know!

 

Are you using the proxy files without both having the original media?

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Known Participant
May 20, 2025

It is a pain. If there were a technical benefit, then fine; but this doesn't seem so.  Oh well.  The thing is, while we are both competent and reasonably tech-savvy editors, we are not professionally-trained ones (Soho-type thing), so while there may be a solution, we don't know it.

Yes, I have the original files, and they're tucked away off-line while I work with the proxies.  The thing is, I've done a lot of prep-work so far - syncing up multiple cameras, cutting out much dross on interviews and marking meticulous notes - so if a solution to this here issue is not to hand then I wouldn't be handing over much to my colleague without him having to repeat, again, an extraordinary amount of prep-work thus far. Generally, between us, I am more the Producer while he is more the Editor, so he is faster than me, while I bring in work.  But in the down-time between projects we have this potentially great 'labour of love' project just sitting there that he has more time to get going on than I do.

Any ideas?

R Neil Haugen
Legend
May 20, 2025

Thank you for coming back, although, tbf, a lot of this doesn't help.

In my thinking, an AAF file would do the cross-platform timeline-related translation stuff, as before, on other projects, this has worked out well (albeit PP does a better job than Avid does at the cross-platform necessities).  But the issue here is: as this was the first time that we shot as best we could with the cameras and then I did the proxy translation work in Avid (which is its own story, right there), we didn't quite forsee that the splitting of video and audio would be any kind of issue for PP.  Again, we just didn't forsee the issue.  So is there any way of instructing PP that there are two files (the same in essence, but split each for video and audio) that it needs to read concurrently? 

Or to try a deifferent approach?  Yes, this is a pain. 


There are so many potential "gotcha!" things it's amazing any of get stuff done at times.

 

I've done some cross app things where we ended up making proxies in both apps. We just couldn't get a smooth workflow otherwise.

 

And yea, it was frustrating but it just worked.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...