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Is there any way to make a DVD through Premier Pro CC 2017?

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I have spent days trying to make a DVD of a school program to send to my 90 year-old grandmother for Christmas, with absolutely no luck!!! I am soooo very frustrated with Adobe right now!!!

I have learned that the only thing that will burn a DVD of Premier Pro projects is and app called Encore CS6 and that I can supposedly still download through the Creative Cloud Apps menu.

However, after spending many, many hours over the past several weeks trying to find the hidden download, it does not exist for me. The only sections under my CC Apps menu are:

Latest Versions - which DOES have a Premier Pro Update available

Previous Versions - Which does NOT show Premier Pro

Find Additional Apps - Which also does NOT now Premier Pro

My mother just renewed this subscription for $360 about 2 months ago and is pretty mad that it can't make a simple DVD for that kind of money!!! The only thing I can think is that perhaps since my subscription was an education subscription, that somehow previous versions are not available to me.

How can I make a DVD? It's a simple question that used to have a simple answer!

Can anyone help me?

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Correct answer David_V_Clarke

If you made an M2T file then you did not choose the right setting. When you make a file for DVD you make an M2V file and an ac3 file.

The way I would do it is:

In the export media dialogue box choose MPEG2 -DVD
Choose the PAL DV or PAL DV widescreen preset (or NTSC if in you use NTSC TVS). DO NOT choose one of the progressive presets and DVDs are hardly ever progressive.
Go to the audio tab and choose "dolby digital"
Go back to the video TAB and go down to the section headed bitrate. It is set to VBR, 1 pass. The simplest thing is to take the middle slider - target bit rate - and move it up and down. While doing this look at the estimated file size which is at the bottom above the button that says metadata. If it is over 4000 MB adjust it until it is about 4000.
Then export the file.
Start Encore and make a new project. Choose DVD and either PAL or NTSC depending on the format you are using. It should match the video clips you made in Premiere.
When open go to file - "import as" and choose "timeline".
Find the two files you made in Premiere - the M2V and the AC3. Select both and click ok.
This should make a timeline in Encore with the video and audio on it. You can play it and should see your video. If you look in the project window there is a "DVD transcode" column with should have "don't transcode" written in it. If it does not say this you did not make the right kind of file out of Premiere Pro.
If you don't need menus then you need to just set two other things - the end action of the timeline and the title button.
Select the timeline in the project window and then go to the properties window. The properties windows should have "timeline" written above it. Find the heading that says "end action" and click on the arrow on the right of this box and choose "stop" or "Chapter 1" of the timeline you have made, depending on whether you want it to stop at the end or play it again.
Go back to the project window and click on a blank space. The properties window should now say "disc". Find the "title button" heading and click in the arrow on the right side of this. Either choose Stop or chapter 1 again. This governs what happens when someone presses the title button on their remote. If not set Encore will complain when you go to burn the disc.
Finally go to the build tab and set the format to DVD and the output to either DVD disc or DVD image. DVD disc will try and write it directly to the disc which, as many people say here, may not work. DVD image will make an image you can burn with another program - like IMGBURN. If making an image go to destination on the build tab and tell it where to make the image.

There are other ways of achieving the same things in Encore but following the above is probably the easiest. You may also want menus which means you will have to do a bit more in Encore but the above should burn a disc without menus.

The biggest thing is getting the target bitrate right. If you set it too high the files will be too big and won't fit on a disc and Encore will remake it. If too low you will have free space on the disc and have squeezed it a bit too much and possibly made the picture look bad. Don't bother going higher than about 8 if you are doing a small disc. Again lots of extra things could be said about this to do with CBR, VBR and 2 pass VBR but I was trying to keep it simple.

ViniBee

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Very helpful post by David_V_Clarke . Thanks

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Isaac the IcemanAuthor

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Update January 19,2017:

I was finally able to make a playable DVD for Grandma using Windows Live Movie Maker on my old Windows Vista computer; complete with menu and scene selections!

As I said previously, my concern is the upcoming FilmFest; which is why I was experimenting with creating DVD's on Grandma's DVD. I want to get all the problems worked out before I have to submit my film in a few months.

I will take all of your suggestions and keep working on making a project with Premier Pro and Encore (and most likely IMGburn)!

Thank you all!!

You've been a great help!!!

D

David_V_ClarkeCorrect answer

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If you made an M2T file then you did not choose the right setting. When you make a file for DVD you make an M2V file and an ac3 file.

The way I would do it is:

In the export media dialogue box choose MPEG2 -DVD
Choose the PAL DV or PAL DV widescreen preset (or NTSC if in you use NTSC TVS). DO NOT choose one of the progressive presets and DVDs are hardly ever progressive.
Go to the audio tab and choose "dolby digital"
Go back to the video TAB and go down to the section headed bitrate. It is set to VBR, 1 pass. The simplest thing is to take the middle slider - target bit rate - and move it up and down. While doing this look at the estimated file size which is at the bottom above the button that says metadata. If it is over 4000 MB adjust it until it is about 4000.
Then export the file.
Start Encore and make a new project. Choose DVD and either PAL or NTSC depending on the format you are using. It should match the video clips you made in Premiere.
When open go to file - "import as" and choose "timeline".
Find the two files you made in Premiere - the M2V and the AC3. Select both and click ok.
This should make a timeline in Encore with the video and audio on it. You can play it and should see your video. If you look in the project window there is a "DVD transcode" column with should have "don't transcode" written in it. If it does not say this you did not make the right kind of file out of Premiere Pro.
If you don't need menus then you need to just set two other things - the end action of the timeline and the title button.
Select the timeline in the project window and then go to the properties window. The properties windows should have "timeline" written above it. Find the heading that says "end action" and click on the arrow on the right of this box and choose "stop" or "Chapter 1" of the timeline you have made, depending on whether you want it to stop at the end or play it again.
Go back to the project window and click on a blank space. The properties window should now say "disc". Find the "title button" heading and click in the arrow on the right side of this. Either choose Stop or chapter 1 again. This governs what happens when someone presses the title button on their remote. If not set Encore will complain when you go to burn the disc.
Finally go to the build tab and set the format to DVD and the output to either DVD disc or DVD image. DVD disc will try and write it directly to the disc which, as many people say here, may not work. DVD image will make an image you can burn with another program - like IMGBURN. If making an image go to destination on the build tab and tell it where to make the image.

There are other ways of achieving the same things in Encore but following the above is probably the easiest. You may also want menus which means you will have to do a bit more in Encore but the above should burn a disc without menus.

The biggest thing is getting the target bitrate right. If you set it too high the files will be too big and won't fit on a disc and Encore will remake it. If too low you will have free space on the disc and have squeezed it a bit too much and possibly made the picture look bad. Don't bother going higher than about 8 if you are doing a small disc. Again lots of extra things could be said about this to do with CBR, VBR and 2 pass VBR but I was trying to keep it simple.

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Isaac the IcemanAuthor

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David:

Wow! Thank you! Your step by step instructions will not only help me, but will help everyone who comes across this forum! Thank You!

In a quick response; These are the few things I noticed I did differently:

1st) I did get an M2V video file and an AC3 audio file, so I typed the wrong thing previously.

2nd) I did use the Widescreen Progressive setting. I'll try again without the progressive setting. Thanks!

3rd) I did not mess with the bitrate, but will experiment with this on my next attempt.

4th) Although menus would be nice, I do not need them for Grandma's DVD. I knew to set the "end action" to "stop", but I did not enter anything into the "title button", so that's another thing for me to fix on my next try.

5th) After the "build" I sent it direct to DVD disc with 1 pass. I'll have to make an image file instead and give IMGburn a try.

Thank you all so much!

Stan Jones

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David's list is very good.

While some users have problems with progressive/interlaced issues, progressive now generally works as long as you are playing it on a player that supports it.

The Encore warning about not having a title button set can generally be ignored, but don't. Fix it as David suggests. On your future project, if you add the main menu before you import anything else, Encore will set that for you (to the menu, as you generally want).

For the film festival, you want to pay close attention to data rate. Learn to use a bitrate calculator:

http://dvd-hq.info/bitrate_calculator.php

Or here's a version of Jeff Pulera's shorthand (he'd post it shortly if I don't!):

When encoding MPEG-2 DVD in AME, a good way to estimate encoding rate is 560/minutes = rate. Your example of 115 minutes comes out to about 4.8 data rate, maybe go 4.7 for safety. For shorter vids, consider 8 as a max rate for video (audio gets added on top of that).

https://helpx.adobe.com/encore/using/project-planning.html#bit_budgeting

Also, if you are downrezzing from HD, you need to set the cropping to scale to fill.

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Isaac the IcemanAuthor

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Update Jan 18, 2017:

To Neil: Next time I try Encore, I'll make a note of the steps I use so hopefully someone can point out my error(s).

To Ann: I did export it as an MPEG2-DVD and got the m2t video but I used the Dolby setting for the audio. Then I put the video and audio into the Encore timeline and told it to build the DVD using their recommended settings.

To Michael: I may try sending videos to a USB drive in the future, but I don't think Grandma's TV has that capability.

To ALL: I was trying to avoid downloading another program, so I have not yet installed IMGburn. I may have to bite the bytes and download it afterall.

In researching the matter, it may have something to do with the Memorex DVD's I've been using. Apparently they are unreliable?!

Meanwhile, I have saved the file to my Windows 10 computer as a WMV file, sent it to a USB drive, moved that to my old Windows Vista computer where I will use that old reliable setup to burn the disc for Grandma. I'll just have to take the loss in quality but it will be good enough for this project.

My concern is another project I've spent months working on for an upcoming filmfest at school where they want the submissions on DVD. I have no idea what to do for that if I can't get a reliable burn using Encore. I'll have to try IMGburn, I guess.

Thank you all!

Ann Bens

Community Expert

To Ann: I did export it as an MPEG2-DVD and got the m2t video but I used the Dolby setting for the audio. Then I put the video and audio into the Encore timeline and told it to build the DVD using their recommended settings.

What settings did you use in Encore: it should say. Dont transcode.

Memorex wow. Did not know they were still around.

Get a good brand such as Verbatim or Tayo Uden.

Most of us use ImgBurn.

Encore is terrible in burning the actual dvd.

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Isaac the IcemanAuthor

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Update Jan 16, 2016:

Well, I was able to successfully download Encore CS6 and uninstall Premier CS6.

I sent my video from Premier Pro to Encore and followed the steps to make the video and audio files and actually burned a disc!

Should be a happy ending, right? Wrong!

The disc will not play in any of our 3 dvd players. I also tried to play it on a computer and it will not play there either.

Don't know where to go from here!

R Neil Haugen

Legend

How about posting the steps as far as say the output/burning settings used? Something went haywire ...

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Isaac the IcemanAuthor

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I am happy to let you all know that "Previous Versions" of Premier Pro finally appeared in my Apps menu last night!

I don't know why! I don't know how! But it is there now so I will be spending today installing (and uninstalling) CS6 so that I can finally have access to Encore!

Thank you all for your help!!!

And wish me luck!

neil wilkes

Legend

I am reluctant to post this, but in the interests of getting the job done feel it is okay - if it is not then someone will doubtless delete the post.

One application you can try is Media Chance Labs DVD-Lab Pro 2.

This, whilst no longer under active development, is still available & does have a couple of active members who still support via the user forums and I can personally attest to it's suitability as an Encore replacement. I mention it as I am not at all certain how well Encore will function in a 64-bit environment such as Windows 10 - with DLP2 you do get a full trial period before buying so can easily test it out.

It also goes a lot further than |Encore ever did but it does *not* have any form of Blu-ray capability whatsoever. I run it to this day with Windows 7 64-bit and it performs flawlessly. It also comes with a built-in menu design tool, plus it also allows you to import your own menus created in Photoshop as well as "external backgrounds" (IE a menu base with no buttons) in BMP form.

There are a lot of tutorials on the site and I have made dozens of commercial titles using it.

Ann Bens

Community Expert

neil wilkes wrote:
I mention it as I am not at all certain how well Encore will function in a 64-bit environment such as Windows 10 -

Encore functions just fine on my W10 machine. Just as it did on W7 and W8.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Encore uses licensed code for the authoring work. The company they licensed that from got bought out by a company that wasn't interested in continuing to develop authoring tools ... so it's been assumed (there's been no official statement) that Adobe's options were to license code from one of the others possibilities & rebuild the program around that, or maintain the software in then-current state. It's obvious which choice they made.

Encore still works, and is available to all CC users though the download/install process is a bit of a pain. After installation you can uninstall PrPro CS6 without problem and continue to use Encore.

There are a number of us here that still use or can advise how to get it installed ... and there is an Encore forum that is still very active and a helpful place on installation and use of that program ...

Encore

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

John T Smith

Community Expert

How to get Encore https://helpx.adobe.com/encore/kb/encore-cs6-installed-cc.html

-Previous via Cloud https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/help/download-install-app.html

If you do not see CS6 as an option, there MAY be something wrong with your Cloud manager install

Ask actual Encore questions in https://forums.adobe.com/community/encore/content

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Isaac the IcemanAuthor

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Thanks to all of you for your advice!

I truly appreciate all of your efforts to help me!

I still do not have any previous versions of Premier Pro listed in my CC Apps.

However I do have Media Encoder CC (2017)...will that let me burn my Premier Pro video to a DVD?

Ann Bens

Community Expert

How to get Encore is by installing Premiere CS6.

BTW moved to the Encore forum.

Peru Bob

Community Expert

If you install Premiere Pro CS6, you will get encore:

How to download and install Adobe Encore CS6

Another option is to export to mpeg 2-DVD and take that to a disc burning program like ImgBurn.

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excited_Genie16B8

Legend

Another option is to export to mpeg 2-DVD and take that to a disc burning program like ImgBurn.

That won't author the disk. It would only create a data disk.

Peru Bob

Community Expert

Jim_Simon wrote:
Another option is to export to mpeg 2-DVD and take that to a disc burning program like ImgBurn.
That won't author the disk. It would only create a data disk.

Woops! How embarrassing.

I skipped a step.

The mpeg-2 DVD file need to go to an authoring program like Encore and then to a disk burning program.

Thanks for the correction. Jim.

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