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amgallop
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May 10, 2020
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Lumetri: Premiere > After effects worflow

  • May 10, 2020
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I have never understood this but maybe i'm being stupid:

 

If I have a clip in Premiere, and I want to replace with an After effects comp via dynamic link. How can I keep the lumetri colour grade on that clip for when I am editing it in AE? 

 

I can't keep it on the clip as AE makes lumetri settings all funky. 

And I can't keep it on an adjustment layer above the clip as that will affect the entire frame. In this instance I am using various masks around the clip and only want the colour grade to be applied to the actual video clip.

 

So for example I might have a 16:9 frame with 2 video clips in (side by side). Each one needs its own Lumetri. 

 

If I have to just render out each clip to bake in the colour settings, it makes dynamic link completely pointless? 

 

Example:

 

Any ideas? 

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Correct answer ah_photo

I thought when sending a clip with Lumetri applied to a Dynamic Link AE Comp, that the Lumetri Color settings are applied to the clip in AE as well. If you view the effects of the clip within your AE comp, do you see the Lumetri Color settings you made there?

 

Not sure what you mean by "makes the settings all funky". If you mean what you saw in Premiere is not 1:1 to what you see in After Effects, it could be a color management matter. Premiere always works in a Rec709 environment, and Premiere can either manage or not manage your display to that. On the flipside, AE lets you work in any number color spaces, and if this is different than what you have in Premiere, it may look different.

 

Or...I could be 100% wrong about this and Lumetri may not actually transfer to the AE comp, but I could've sworn it did. Even if not, couldn't you bypass the Lumetri grade in Premier entirely and just put a seperate Lumetri Color effect on each clip in your AE comp?

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Carlos ZiadeCommunity Expert
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May 10, 2020

to get exact colors when doing dynamic linking between after effects and premiere pro,

you will have to set the color working space from project settings inside after effects

to Rec. 709 Gamma 2.4 which is the default color space on which premiere pro is based.

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
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    May 10, 2020

    Ahh, a LUT is involved ... this is why it is so necessary to give full details.

     

    It may be that you are not parking acquired or self-built LUTs in the proper places? Many new users add LUTs into the LUT lists in the Program/Package folder location. This is wrong in many ways. Among them, only that specific app will see them, which is really the most minor "wrong" of doing this.

     

    For any LUTs a user creates or acquires, they do have an appropriate place ... and if you use that pair of locations, all the video apps will see the LUT. Including AfterEffects, MediaEncoder, and Prelude.

     

    You do need to add the final folders Creative and Technical in the following chart locations. Anything in the Technical folder will be used in the scrolling system in the Lumetri Basic tab, Creative folder will be viewed by the drop-down system in the Creative tab.

     

    Neil

     

     

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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      ah_photoCorrect answer
      Legend
      May 10, 2020

      I thought when sending a clip with Lumetri applied to a Dynamic Link AE Comp, that the Lumetri Color settings are applied to the clip in AE as well. If you view the effects of the clip within your AE comp, do you see the Lumetri Color settings you made there?

       

      Not sure what you mean by "makes the settings all funky". If you mean what you saw in Premiere is not 1:1 to what you see in After Effects, it could be a color management matter. Premiere always works in a Rec709 environment, and Premiere can either manage or not manage your display to that. On the flipside, AE lets you work in any number color spaces, and if this is different than what you have in Premiere, it may look different.

       

      Or...I could be 100% wrong about this and Lumetri may not actually transfer to the AE comp, but I could've sworn it did. Even if not, couldn't you bypass the Lumetri grade in Premier entirely and just put a seperate Lumetri Color effect on each clip in your AE comp?

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      amgallopAuthor
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      May 10, 2020

      Yes you are correct that the clip carries the Lumetri effect into AE. What I mean by funky, is that for some reason the settings just don't give the same result in both programs - I have no idea why, it must be a bug of some kind and I believe it something related to when I am using LUTS. I have had a play today and it is actually working much better. I have just updated so maybe this is why! You're certainly right - if that element works then it solves the issue I allude to. 

       

      Thanks for your detailed reply! 

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