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LUT auto applied to Sony Venice .mxf files on import in Premiere

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May 15, 2020
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Having an issue with a feature film that was shot on the Sony Venice. Whenever I import the raw .mxf files into Premiere Pro (2020) it seems to be auto-applying a LUT to the footage. Solutions like the Amira Lumetri workaround, and "disable masterclip effects" aren't relevant and don't solve the problem.

Looking for help with this. Thanks!

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perryg85995830

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I found a solution that worked for me to switch lots of Sony Venice footage to s-log 3 all at once.

First, select any of your clips, open up Effects Controls, change the color space to s-log3, then right click the 'Sony RAW MXF Source Setting', copy, highlight the rest of your footage, right click and paste. I had to right click to copy and paste. Using hotkeys didn't work for some reason. Hope that helps!

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Austin Moses - Caravan

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Not sure if you figured this out yet, but I ran into this issue too and found a solution:

In the project panel, select all your venice clips NOT including any folders. Right Click - "Source Settings" and change from Rec709 to "S-Gamut3.Cine/S-Log3" or whichever color space you want.

Not sure why the method of disabling master clip effects is different for some cameras but whatever Sony!!

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lees7258940

Participant

I'm having the same problem. Nothing happens when I do this.

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lees7258940

Participant

Found it, "Interpret Footage>Color Space Override: Switch to Rec. 709"

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lane_182

Participant

For all those interested, I found the solution!

After you bring your clip into the timeline, click on "Effect Controls" and there will be two tabs. Click on the "Master * [clip_name]" tab and there should be a control setting that looks like this:

Click the dropdown menu and select "S-Gamut3.Cine/S-Log3". As far as I can tell, this only works after it is in the timeline, and it won't work when looking at the "Source" window for the clip. This also means you will need to go in and manually select this setting for every clip in the timeline. But at least it's something. If someone has a way to apply this setting to all the clips, please feel free to share. (Copy/Paste Attributes does not work.)

rachelcenter

Legend

When I double click on my clip and go to effects, I don't have that "master" option under effects. When I click F and pull up the raw clip in the source window, its flat/log looking. its only when I drop it down on the timeline that it magically has a color grade applied, which is really annoying because the B-Cam and C-Cam don't have this problem. Only A-Cam. any idea how to solve it? its sony S-log footage.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

They've changed the color management processes rather dramatically.

There are settings for clip color managment in the Modify/Intrepret Footage dialog now. At the bottom, and you can apply a LUT, or use the options to set a color space or override to what Premiere defaulted for the clip.

There are CM settings for sequences now also ... and users need to check those. That's in the Sequences menu.

And for some Log recorded media, they added a default transform to Rec.709 to the several 'recognized' media formats. You may be able to change this in the Modify/Interpret Footage controls. And note, those settings can be applied to entire groups of selected clips in one go. I do believe the Sony S-log is included in the ones they apply a default "manufacturer's transform" to.

And again, you might be able to override that in the Modify/Interpret Footage dialog.

And of course, some cameras have in certain formats a panel that will appear in the Source tab of the Effects Control Panel. Such as for RED, Arri, and BlackMagic RAW. I would expect the Sony Venice would also have a panel in the Source tab of the ECP. I don't know about the other Sony cams, but you didn't state which one it is anyway.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Check the Media Properties in the Project panel. Right-click the clip, then select Modify/Interpret Footage. That's where they've moved input LUTs and color space options to.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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lane_182

Participant

This is the only thing that comes up when right clicking Modify > Interpret Footage:

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Huh, wonder if @Kevin-Monahan might be able to help with this?

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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lane_182

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Does anyone have any additional information on this? I have the exact same issue as described, and I've tried Premiere 2020 with both a Windows 10 PC, as well as a 2018 Macbook Pro. The LUT is always auto-applied, even when converting the raw .mxf files into proxies through Media Encoder.

I can confirm the Sony Venice files are raw and there should be no LUT applied because they open up just fine as raw files in the Sony RAW Viewer.

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paulb48821820

Participant

Hi. Having same issue exactly as described above.

Tried on up to date macbook pro, intel and ryzen machines. Same effect.

Currently having to convert to prores from RAWviewer 😕😕

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Meg The Dog

Inspiring

Mac or PC?

To get help, you need to supply more info - like workstation and OS, etc.

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