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Tuwandap
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August 23, 2021
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M1 Macbook Pro Rendering (15.4.1) 4k... SLOW

  • August 23, 2021
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I have a 30min 4k, H.264 no third party plugins, with at max 5 transitions and it took 2hr 26min to complete.  I have been speaking with Adobe Care by way of Twitter, and not much assistance.  The "expert" told me 4k is large files, that is correct.  I need to make sure all other application that use up memory are closed. (i.e. Chrome). This same video, on my Windows PC took 20min with streaming Netflix (16GB RAM).  The M1 from what I reveiwed should not need me to close other apps to get the benefits of the faster rendering.  Something is not right with this upgrade.  No one is helping.  Is there a setting I need to ensure is turned on or off?  Please help.

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    Jeff Bugbee
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    Jeff BugbeeCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    August 24, 2021

    Looks like you are exporting to an external drive, can you try to export to the internal drive and see if there's a difference?

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    stalechipsco
    Participant
    November 4, 2021

    I'm having the exact same issue as the OP. I've tried internal to limited success. Took it from 1.5 hours to less than one. 

    Any other tricks?

    Warren Heaton
    Community Expert
    Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    November 5, 2021

    Transcode the MP4 clips to ProRes422 LT (or since, the source is H264, you might as well use ProRes422 Proxy) and watch everything in Premiere Pro happen almost before you can take a sip of coffee (Mac or Windows).

     

    Even though we have hardware acceleration options for H264 and H265 on some systems, it's never been an editing CODEC.

    Warren Heaton
    Community Expert
    Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    August 24, 2021

    Transcode the MP4 clips to ProRes422 LT (or since, the source is H264, you might as well use ProRes422 Proxy) and watch everything in Premiere Pro happen almost before you can take a sip of coffee (Mac or Windows).

     

    Even though we have hardware acceleration options for H264 and H265 on some systems, it's never been an editing CODEC.

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    TuwandapAuthor
    Inspiring
    August 24, 2021

    This video help me to understand why im seeing 2hrs for rendering 30min, 4k, H.264.  Adobe you haven't improved as to GPU for rendering with M1.  It would have been nice that you just said that.

    https://youtu.be/OTzRBNIhBXU

    Kevin-Monahan
    Community Manager
    Kevin-MonahanCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    August 25, 2021

    Tuwandap,

    I believe that there is new decoding options for Sony XAVC 4K 10 bit decoding for HEVC in the latest beta version. Please check that out.

     

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
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    Silkr0ad
    Inspiring
    August 24, 2021

    Just my point of view here but laptops are always a pain in the ass when editing. I still don't understand why people don't get a real editing station. As you said, it went super fast on your PC, it's not transportable like a laptop but the proof is there. Macs are good, but laptops have serious limitations when it comes to editing and we all see it everyday. Good luck with your work!

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    TuwandapAuthor
    Inspiring
    August 24, 2021

    Sticking with Windows platform.  I guess I fell for the hype.  Others I know, work.  I didnt try with previous release to see if its something with new one. Just got the new laptop and downloaded the new release. Thanks for your point of view, its accurate in my case

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      Andy 1968
      Inspiring
      August 25, 2021

      Tunwandup and Silkroad,

       

      FCPX on a M1 laptop can outperform a 12 core AMD Desktop CPU when editing and playing back H.264/265. The reason being is becuase the M1 chup has hardware encdoding and decoding that FCPX can tap into. Premiere Pro cannot. Your Windows PC is probably making use of Nvenc or Quick Sync as seen in the video below and that is why Premiere Pro performs better on the Windows PC. That being said I am sure Premeire Pro will make full use of the M1 chip soon. 




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      Andy 1968
      Inspiring
      August 24, 2021

      FCPX works better using the M1 chip because FCPX can use the h.264/265 encoder and decoder of the M1 chip. I don't think Premiere Pro can. Premiere Pro can use Intel's Quick Sync. 

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      TuwandapAuthor
      Inspiring
      August 24, 2021

      Never heard of FCPX needing to be used with Premiere Pro.  Frustrating that Adobe, don't have an answer for their product us. Adobe Care team dumb and run cauae they see me chatting here but still NO solution. Pay too much for this product and they cant give answers. 😤 

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      TuwandapAuthor
      Inspiring
      August 24, 2021

      Correction Final Cut, may need to learn it.  Just so many showing Adobe working.  Very frustrated 😠 

      Kevin-Monahan
      Community Manager
      Kevin-MonahanCommunity Manager
      Community Manager
      August 23, 2021

      Hi,

      I got the export kicked off and the estimate is 22 minutes. That is with a Lumetri Color effect added to each clip, something I think you may have added to clips but did not mention as I do see the panel open. Not really sure what to say as we have the same machines, and hey, these are 4K clips I shot on my iPhone. Sounds like we need more info.

       

      You said something like, "I shouldn't have to close other apps while I'm exporting." If you have other GPU intensive apps running concurrently, they can harm Premiere Pro performance, no doubt: Chrome and Spotify being the biggest offenders.

       

      Perhaps it would be inconvenient, but try to run those on other devices if you are experiencing GPU issues and exporting difficulties in Premiere Pro, M1, WIN box, no matter.

      Hope we can help.

       

      Thanks,
      Kevin

       

       

      Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
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      TuwandapAuthor
      Inspiring
      August 23, 2021

      No improvement.  Closed everything. See attached

      Kevin-Monahan
      Community Manager
      Kevin-MonahanCommunity Manager
      Community Manager
      August 23, 2021

      Tuwandap,

      Sorry for the performance drop. I would try setting the "Match Sequence Settings" box and seeing if the output if faster. I'll try a test, as well, and will report back.

       

      Thanks,
      Kevin

      Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
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      TuwandapAuthor
      Inspiring
      August 23, 2021

      It makes it a MPEG file instead of MP4, no improvment of time.

      Kevin-Monahan
      Community Manager
      Kevin-MonahanCommunity Manager
      Community Manager
      August 23, 2021

      Hi,

      It says 31 min. and not 2 hours and something from your screenshot. Didn't that fix your issue?

       

      Kevin

      Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
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