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February 7, 2025
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Multi-Sequence Timeline Freezing

  • February 7, 2025
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  • Issue - Laptop is freezing up within premiere in my nested multi-sequence timeline. It's taking a VERY long time to load. Sometimes 10 minutes just to get the "media pending" off my screen.. I am using 4k files and even make proxies but it will still freeze up at random points when I try to skim the timeline. I tried restarting my computer & clearing some cache already. 
  • Adobe Premiere Pro version number: Version 25.1.0 (Build 73)
  • Operating system - macOS Sequoina, Version 15.3
  • System Info: CPU, GPU, RAM, HD:
    • Apple M1 Max, 64GB memory (RAM)
    • No Hard Drive

  • Video format: Video Codec Type: MP4/MOV H.264 10 bit 4:2:2 & Video Codec Type: MP4/MOV H.264 4:2:0 
  • Workflow details: It is a nested multi-cam sequence with 4 cameras and 1.5 hours of footage.
  • Steps to reproduce - Open premiere pro. Navigate to my multi-cam sequence (already made). It says "Media Pending" and it freezes up my program.
  • Expected result - Open my multi-sequence timeline with no problem and no lag and all of the files already linked & ready to be edited.
  • Actual result - I click on my timeline with the multi-cam sequence and my program freezes up for several minutes and I have to wait for "media pending" for a very long time. 
Correct answer kalebk55570725

I ended up just moving the files to a whole new project and made pro-res proxies (instead of h.264) and it seems to be working pretty good now

9 replies

Inspiring
March 10, 2025

I had the same problem (with the multi-cam playback monitor view only - single cam playback window was fine without the following adjustments), until I turned my color grading layer off. I also reduced the sequence playback settings. This eliminated my issue. The color grading adjustment layer seemed to contribute significantly to the issue. I simply turn the multi-cam view off when and work with a single view in the playback monitor when working with the color grading adjustment layer on. Hope this helps someone out there!

 

 

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 25, 2025

Yes, Paul, I forgot that some people work with adjustment layers laden with heavy effects. During the multicam edit, having effects disabled with the FX button in the Program Monitor or by disabling key video tracks as you have, that would certainly help increase performance with a multicam editing session.

 

Thanks for the tip!

Cheers,
Kevin

 

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
kalebk55570725AuthorCorrect answer
Participant
February 24, 2025

I ended up just moving the files to a whole new project and made pro-res proxies (instead of h.264) and it seems to be working pretty good now

R Neil Haugen
Legend
February 10, 2025

Yes, we're both saying that there's an issue with your original media. And there are several ways to work around the problem.

 

First, what is long-GOP? GOP is "group of pictures." In reality the files are only a complete, actual frame of video image every 9 to 30 or in some cases, up to 120 frames apart. These frames are called ' i-frames ' .

 

But what is in-between the i-frames? Isn't there video there?

 

No, there isn't actually video in-between those i-frames. There are only data-set charts ... tables of data, listing the pixels that have changed since the last i-frame, or that will change before the next timeline, or ... both.

 

So, to display most of the actual video frames of your clip, the computer has to:

  • find the i-frames on either side of any specific frame,
  • then from the data sets of the frames between the i-frames and the current frame, rebuild every frame in order to properly compute what the image pixels for "this" frame are supposed to show,
  • store the rebuilt frames in RAM or cache files ... and finally ...
  • play back the video.

 

Why do standard video players not have problems with long-GOP playback?

 

Simple. Because they are simple. There's nothing going on besides playing back the file. 

 

An NLE ... non-linear editor ... is a vastly more complex beast in operation. Several orders of magnitude more complicated. And therefore takes a ton more computer processing to operate. Why?

 

A player simply takes one video file, and plays it. No other computations involved.

 

An NLE takes bits of video from any number of clips, puts them in visual order as set on the timeline/sequence, adds any effects you've chosen and apply them separately to each image, and then gives a playback.

 

So this is different from video files that aren't long-GOP?

 

Yea. Codecs like ProRes, DNx, Cineform and others, may apply compression per frame ... but every frame is there completely in the video. No other frames are needed for the computer to present that frame. Only a bit of decompression.

 

How do I get around long-GOP playback problems?

 

There are several different ways. Pick which one works at the moment. One option is of course to shoot the original video using i-Frame codecs ... intraframe ... where all clips are a complete frame. Skipping the long-GOP thing entirely.

 

But for where you already have long-GOP, or can't avoid it, there are options to help playback.

 

  1.  Before importing into Premire, transcode to ProRes or DNx or Cineform in say HandBrake or Cineform. Or MediaEncoder. The files will be much larger, but will work better for editing and exporting. As you can re-create them any time, after you're done, dump the t-codes and keep only the original, smaller files.
  2. Import the H.264 into Premiere, but then select them in the Project panel, and have Premiere make proxies. Using the ProRes options, preferably. The proxy files will probably be bigger on-disc than the original files, but they'll play back like butter.

 

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participant
February 10, 2025

I'm still very confused by what is going on here. I'm not very savvy with understanding 'long GOP' or 'non-performant' footage. I'm more looking for a solution to speed up my workflow so there's no 5-10min lag with my playback.

 

Are you suggesting there is something I need to do with my footage before I put in premiere to make sure everything runs back smooth?

 

All my proxies are functioning properly & I have also successfully restarted my program, deleted all cache, & even put files in a new project but I'm still having the same issue. 

 

I appreciate any further insight you all might have to improve this issue.

Participant
February 10, 2025

The media is coming from files that I copied from an external hard drive onto my desktop (internal hard drive). 

Community Manager
February 10, 2025

Hi @kalebk55570725 ,

Welcome to the forums. Thanks for the message. I suspect Neil and Kevin are correct about the footage being the main issue. I'm curious, though: You say no hard drive. Where are you playing the media off of? A server, the cloud, internal HD, etc?  Sorry for the frustration and thanks for reaching out.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
February 10, 2025

Long-GOP is why he said it's non-performant. Very few frames are actually complete frames. Most are only part of the image with some of the image having to be computed from bits and pieces of another frame up to 30 or more frames in front of or behind that one.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participant
February 9, 2025

ok, I will try to relaunch while holding down the shift key.. I have already deleted media cache.

 

What do you mean by the 4:2:2 10bit footage being a "non-performant"?

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
February 8, 2025

Hi @kalebk55570725,

Thanks for the message. While we await a community response, have you tried any troubleshooting steps. Try launching the application with the Shift key held down. In the Reset Options dialog box, choose to delete the media cache. See if that helps. If that doesn't work, ensure your proxies are functioning correctly. The 4:2:2 10-bit footage is non-performant and does need to be considered in all workflows, not to mention playback of multiple video streams. For sure, look into the proxy workflow moving forward.

 

I hope the community can assist you with a solution shortly. I apologize for the situation.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

 

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio