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July 5, 2022
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Multiple Bugs in Premiere 22.5 when using Proxies

  • July 5, 2022
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I have some footage which is a 29.97 fps video (shot on DJI Osmo Pocket 2 / 8x Slowmo) which i (through "interpret footage") conformed to 25fps, to fit my 25fps project / timeline. I rendered proxies for the DJI clips.

 

Then I overlaid some animated graphics with alpha channel onto a video clip and manually tracked them onto the video, using keyframes in the "Anchor Point" parameters. 

 

Premiere v22.5 shows two (!) bugs when using proxies.

1. Switching the timeline viewer between Full Resolution and Proxy makes Premiere ignore the keyframes in the "Anchor Point" parameter.

 

2. Switching from Full Resolution to Proxy makes Premiere "forget" about the manually conformed framerate of the video-clip, the Proxy clip will run at the original framerate, and is not automatically conformed to the "parents" framerate.

 

Please fix this, this is very annoying.

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Rustic Media
Known Participant
July 14, 2022

Having same issue in Premiere 22.5.0.

Project framerate 23.976 (A-Roll OCF acquired in 23.976. B-Roll OCF acqured in 59.94fps)

Attach Proxies (matching fps respective to OCF).

Interpret offspeed 59.95fps footage to 23.976fps.

With Proxy Toggled On, playback in Source and Program do not correspond to OCF.

 

This is a BUG in 22.5.0 - have used this workflow successfully in previous versions.

 

Interpreting offspeed footage at the Clip level in Project Panel to conform to a common fps should not impact how the Proxies are read in Source or Sequence.

Rustic Media
Known Participant
July 14, 2022
Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 5, 2022

Premiere Pro's Proxy Workflow requires that the frame rate of the Proxy file match the frame rate of the Full Resolution clip.

For more details, review the notes at the bottom of Proxy workflow in the Adobe Premiere Pro User Guide.

Inspiring
July 5, 2022

The proxy files DO match the framerate of the original media file. Any "Interpret Footage" setting on the original video asset should should obviously be reflected on the proxy files -  something that Premiere should handle internally without user inetraction.

 

If Premiere does NOT handle this process, this should be treated as a bug report imho.

Communicating this as  "workin as intended" is not helpful. There is NO use case where a user wants to play the proxy file for a video asset at another framerate than the original video asset, so any setting made in "Interpret Footage" should trancend to the proxy.

 

If you can come up with one single scenario where this behaviour is desired, i am very curious to hear it.

 

I dont know if you are a video professional an have dealt with format conversion, using Speed / Duration to mitigate the behaviour can only be considered an inferior quality workaround and does not solve the real problem. I am not using Interprete Footage to intentionally change the speed of the File, i am merely conforming a 29.97fps video file without creating interpolation artifacts. That is a standard procedure and especially when not using sync sound, the best way to handle mixed frame rate material since full frames stay full frames, without blending ot interpolatipon.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
July 5, 2022

The engineers have stated over and over that Speed/Duration is the tool built for changing footage to another speed. That's what has been listed for doing this work for some time.

 

It's confusing as they have the two speed changing processes, but they don't work nearly the same and both have issues when used not what they were designed for.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
R Neil Haugen
Legend
July 5, 2022

For this work, do not use "interpret footage" to change the speed. Use Speed/Duration, and your proxies and original media will both work as you expect.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Ishan Y
Inspiring
July 5, 2022

Hey Till24235339ha2a,

 

Sorry about the issue. Can you share a sample of your source files with us through a personal message so we can reproduce the issue on our end? Which settings did you use for creating the proxies? Please share your system specifications (OS, OS version, CPU, GPU, RAM). 

 

Regards,

Ishan

Inspiring
July 5, 2022

Send you a private message with a link to the consolidated project and required files. 

Ishan Y
Inspiring
July 6, 2022

Thank you. We'll test the files on our end and get back to you.