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rontinglis
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April 19, 2021
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New CC Interface. CEA 708 Captions not Broadcaster accepted?

  • April 19, 2021
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Recently upgraded, Premiere to v15.1   My CEA-708 captions are not appearing when I send them to a broadcaster.  My spot was rejected, and I'm having to port all my outputs to v14 to get them out the door. Has anyone done this with success? Kind of a pointless interface upgrade if it's not working.  Grrr!

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Trent Happel
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April 20, 2021

By any chance are you using any of the options under the Effects tab in the Export Settings? We do have an open issue with effects applied via Effects tab in Export Settings (eg: Time Tuner, Video Limiter, etc.), that we are working on. A possible workaround is to apply the effect(s) in your Timeline, rather than Export Settings (eg: apply effect(s) to Adjustment Layer in Timeline)

 

One other open issue we are working on involves Sequences with non-standard frame rates (eg: Variable Frame Rate, 23.98 fps instead of 23.976, etc.). Possible workaround is to create Sequence with one of the available Timebase fps options or use one of the supplied Sequence presets.

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rontinglisAuthor
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April 20, 2021

Still working on deadline.

 

Nothing special in terms of effects/framerate. I got it to export out properly, and passed QC on a second attempt. I believe the secret sauce was, as suggeted above by jjc.tri, that everything needed to pre-rendered in the timeline.

 

I believe I successfully used direct export out of Premiere, and the failed version involved using Media Encoder. I'll try again later when I've got breathing room, as it's kinda important...

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    Trent Happel
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    April 20, 2021

    No probelem, I completely understand. Thanks for the quick update.

    Stan Jones
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    Stan JonesCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    April 20, 2021

    This has been reported by several others.

     

    See this thread:

    https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro/warning-if-you-rely-on-exporting-captions-for-broadcast/m-p/11922199#M337221

     

    Stan

     

    Warren Heaton
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    Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    April 19, 2021

    The Captions Track is set to 708, correct?

     

    And, of course, you're exporting to something like MXF OP1a that supprot captions being embedded in the file?

     

    This is Premiere Pro 15.1.0.

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    rontinglisAuthor
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    April 19, 2021

    Yes to Sony XDCam HD422 OP1a MXF.  Done this like a billion times in v14. Trying to make deadlines, so I can't fiddle just now. I'll pipe back up when I get surface from my current grief.   This file should have both 608 and 708:

     

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    Trent Happel
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    April 19, 2021

    Are you saying that the CEA-708 captions were not embedded in your exported file? Could you provide the steps that you went through? This will help in diagnosing.

     

    Thank you.

      jjc.tri
      jjc.tri
      Inspiring
      April 19, 2021

      I had the same problem.  You'll have to render 1st, then add captions and rerender. Not a huge deal if you are using QTProRes. It won't re-transcode the video just embed the captions.  Then use MediaInfo to check if they are embedded.  

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