Skip to main content
S
superneat12345
Participant
June 17, 2020
Question

Premiere Pro 14.3 - Generating new Peak Files for .R3D files every time I open the same project

  • June 17, 2020
  • 6 replies
  • 5848 views

This is absolutely absurd to me. I have a project with 26.5 TERABYTES of .R3D (RED Files) and Premiere Pro 14.3 (but the last 4 updates as well) generates new Peak Files for EVERY clip EVERY TIME I open the project. This process can take HOURS.

 

Why can't Premiere Pro refrence the peak files made for the exact same clip stored on my PC (As well as MAC from my tests) from yesterday? 

 

This process seems comically redundant and has been an issue since at least 2015 looking at the forums. 

 

Disabling automatic Waveform creation in Edit> Prefrences does nothing to solve or speed up the problem. It takes HOURS to load a project now. Which means I simply cannot shut the project down once it's loaded. 

 

ADOBE. PLEASE address this problem. 

 

    This topic has been closed for replies.

    6 replies

    D
    David Diaconescu
    Participant
    December 18, 2023

    Good day! Has this issue been solved by any chance? I would love to know what the root of this problem is because I am having it as well...

    Thank you!

      S
      salvo34
      Inspiring
      July 3, 2020

      I contacted a DP who used to work on episodic TV stuff, and asked how many terabytes he used per episode, so he contacted an AC friend and got this info:

      We shoot with 3 sony cameras and each one is about 1 terabyte per day... the shoot lasts 10 days per episode, so that is 30 terabytes.

      I didn't get dimension or codec info, but for TV broadcast it's probably full HD most of the time. Some stuff might go up due to VFX down the line, but I  kinda doubt it. It's like a factory... the workflow.

       

      This post is so ridiculous it's beyond silly. Good luck getting truth and specs, cause nobody in the world in pro work would have posted a whining complaint like this, blaming Adobe for the past 5 updates for this without adding all the info, you, Matt, just asked for.

       

      M
      Community Manager
      mstegnerCommunity Manager
      Community Manager
      July 3, 2020

      Hi, This is Matt from Adobe.

      I can try to help but I'll need a little more information.  

      What kind of NAS is the footage stored on?  

      Was the footage imported via the Media Browser, or were the raw files dragged in from Windows Explorer?

      Can you post pictures of a couple of your preferences so I have a sense of your configuration?  Can you post a picture of Preferences>Media Cache... and Preferences>Media... will be a good start.

      "Disabling automatic Waveform creation in Edit> Preferences does nothing to solve or speed up the problem". This is one of the first problem solving steps that I would recommend.  If you turn off Peak file creation, you will need to close Premiere, and I HIGHLY recommend you manually delete the Media Cache Database, the Media Cache files, and the Peak files folders inside of the Common folder.  If there are left over .pek files that are still being generated , Premiere will attempt to keep recreating them even after you turn off the waveform generation.

      Also, the media cache locations should be on a fast, local disk, not on a shared network disk.  Attempting to share the Media Cache among multiple users and machines will end in nothing but errors.  (Please understand that I say this with zero insight into how you have everything set up, and can only make broad statements about the functionality of the Media Cache)

        thxapproved2
        thxapproved2
        Inspiring
        May 27, 2022

        Matt,

        I would like to post this here as well, as I would like to find a resolution to this issue:

        I'm having this issue in all versions of PPro CC22 (Currently on 22.4). I've noticed it constantly re-generates the PEK files every time I open Premiere and then open a project. OF NOTE: It is only doing this to BRAW (Blackmagic Design raw files) and MOV files (h.264 or ProRes 422... may do others, but these are the only ones I am using).

        Interestingly, it is not regenerating the peak files for AVCHD media (h.264 .mts files from Sony), MP4 media (either h.264 or h.265), WAV files, or MP3 files. This is machine agnostic potentially, at least as far as the Windows 64-bit version goes, as I have the same issue at home and at work on machines with different specifications.

        I have tried all the suggestion of placing the metadata files in various places and clicking on and off the "automatic audio waveform generation" button. Nothing seems to make a difference. I even did a fresh install of PPro, along with resetting preferences.

        Also, recently when importing media (after updating to 22.4), when I go to close Premiere, I get the "metadata writing in progress (xxx files)... if you exit now you will lose any unsaved data" warning. The xxx file number is identical to the number of files that have peak files being regenerated. However, my computer is idle. Any idea why it can't write metadata about these files?

        Does anyone have any thoughts? It's not preventing me from working...yet. However it just means 30-minute documentaries take a long time to load and then be ready for work, as the system is very sluggish while regenerating 200+ peak files.

        Windows 10 / 32GB / All local drives / not team project / have tried metadata files next to originals and in a media cache on another local drive. Makes no difference.

         

        Thanks for any help. I have posted in the DVA Uservoice area as well, hoping to find an answer.

        M
        Community Manager
        mstegnerCommunity Manager
        Community Manager
        May 27, 2022

        @thxapproved2 Would you be be able/willing to get on a screen share with me at some point to try to resolve this?

        S
        salvo34
        Inspiring
        June 18, 2020

        hmmmm. I usually don't have that problem on a pc.

        Typically I only do projects around 20 terabytes long from Red X and I always use the sound from 'in camera' like you because the quality is so good ( rather than slate and record from external recorder ).

         

        I don't know why 26 terabytes would cause a problem.

         

        Maybe you could try using an Arri camera instead ? Beats me.

         

         

          M
          Michael Grenadier
          Legend
          June 18, 2020

          can you post a short clip and I'll see if I see the same behavior...

            R Neil Haugen
            R Neil Haugen
            Legend
            June 17, 2020

            Where are the files stored?

             

            Neil

            Everyone's mileage always varies ...
              S
              Shark Island
              Participant
              July 3, 2020

              This is also driving me absoultely nuts. I have a project whihc wants to generate over 22,000 new peak files and consequently takes hours. Have had the worst day today - achieved nothing. The number of these s peak files is likely to double over the course of the project as I am cutting an observational dococ for whihc there are often 8 tracks of sound for one piece of video.

               

              Is the only solution really to leave the machine on all the time?? Not at all environmentally friendly.

               

              Please help. I've wasted the whiole day. I only upgarded to latest version of PP last week and it is since then that this process seems to have slowed to snail's opace.

              R Neil Haugen
              R Neil Haugen
              Legend
              July 3, 2020

              Where are the files stored, both the original media and the peak files ... local disc, network server, what? Just trying to get more data here.

               

              Neil

              Everyone's mileage always varies ...
              Terms & ConditionsAccessibility statement
              Using the community Terms of use Privacy Cookie preferences Do not sell or share my personal information ad choicesAdChoices