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April 22, 2025
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Premiere Pro 25.2.1 - Captions and White Graphics Aren't White

  • April 22, 2025
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I'm using the updated Color Managment tools in Lumetri and I can't get the white text to be white in my project. I've tried the settings to overriding the color space and nothing I change effects the luminance of the white text. The graphics and captions are showing about 75 IRE no matter what I do. 

 

Current Premiere Pro Version - 25.2.1

Mac OS Sequoia - 15.3.2

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Participant
November 19, 2025

I've been working this same problem. The suggestion to revert to an SDR workflow is one approach, but it completely defeats the purpose of an intermediate color space, which is the whole point of the new CM! So frustrating. Here's what works for me:

 

1. Do your edit and color in ACES, as you've been doing, with a Wide Gamut setup, and Output conversion to your delivery standard.

2. Nest that sequence into a new sequence (Direct SDR by default—or whatever your delivery standard is)

3. Add your graphics in the new sequence.

 

It's not perfect, and it would be frustrating if you have a ton of graphics, but it's working for me, for now, while we wait for a fix. 

Community Manager
April 22, 2025

Hi Corey28086712ghs5,

Welcome to the community! Under Sequence Settings > Color Management > Advanced, set Output Tone Mapping to None. Hope it helps.

 

Thanks,

Sumeet

Corey GAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 22, 2025

Changing the" Output Tone Mapping to None" does solve the problem of the graphics not displaying correctly, but now my footage is blown out and not correctly colored. I hoped the "Graphics White Override" would take care of this, but it's not having any effect. 

Community Manager
April 23, 2025

If you are using media files with wider color space in the same SDR sequence, you may try Input Tone mapping for clip-specific adjustments. For this, you can set Sequence > Color Setup to Direct Rec. 709 (SDR). This should change Output Color Space & Working Color Space to Rec.709 & enable default Input Tone mapping. If required, you can then select the HDR clip in the timeline & make clip-specific adjustments to Input Tone Mapping under Lumetri Color panel > Settings > Sequence Clip. Let us know if it helps.

 

Thanks,

Sumeet

R Neil Haugen
Legend
April 22, 2025

Did you create the graphics in Premiere, or elsewhere?

 

I do know there's a way that some png and/or jpg files can be tagged for color space/DR, that doesn't fit the Premiere CM as you would expect, while others tagged differently work perfectly.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Corey GAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 22, 2025

It's effecting the captions I generated in Premere and graphics created in Illustrated. 

Corey GAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 22, 2025

I enabled "Preserve RGB" for the graphic I brought into Premiere and that solved the problem for that, but the same process doens't have any effect on graphics I created in Premiere or the captions.