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mypetfroguk
Participant
June 11, 2012
Question

Premiere Pro CS6 Merucry Playback on Nvidia 650M MacBook Pro??

  • June 11, 2012
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With Apple just announcing the new super powerful Macbook Pro's with Retina display I wanted to ask the two obvious questions:

1. Will Mercury Playback Engine use the Nvidia GeForce GT 650M 1Gb GFX processor for CUDA (384 cuda cores!) accellerated playback? (its a beat of a mobile processor so fingers crossed?!)  If so anyone from Adobe comment on how long for an update?

2. When will Adobe provide an update to use the high Retina Display resolutions?

Exciting laptop for video editing, fingers crossed Adobe can utilise that power and resolution to the full!

Nvidia blogged about the GFX processor here: http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/06/new-apple-macbook-pros-feature-kepler-class-geforce-gpus/

Cheers

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5 replies

Participant
June 21, 2012

Hi,

I just got a Macbook Pro Retina with 16 gigs of memory.  Premiere CS6 doesn't give the option to switch on Hardware Mercury Playback unless I do the hack. I got it to work by following the hack instructions I've found online, e.g., installing the Nvidia Cuda drivers and then inserting,  GeForce GT 650M into the file, cuda_supported_cards.txt.

I haven't fully tested it yet to see how stable it is.  I stuck 6 accelerated filters on a 1920 x 1080 H.264, 6 min video located on the internal SSD drive onto the Premiere timeline and it all played back realtime at full res.  I cut it up stuck some unaccerlerated effects on and it added a couple of cross dissolves and it played playback realtime at half res.

-Jason

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
June 21, 2012

Spot of Bother wrote:

Premiere CS6 doesn't give the option to switch on Hardware Mercury Playback unless I do the hack.

The computer is brand new, we've only just begun testing it. If you want this card officially supported, please make a feature request: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
Participating Frequently
July 6, 2012

Hi,

I had more time to edit with Premiere Pro CS6 on my Macbook Pro Retina with the hack, so I can use hardware accelerated Mercury plaback, and wouldn't recommend it as it's crashed frequently for me. I was working on a 7 minute edit composed of a lot of 1080p H.264 files and some Pro Res 4444 1080p files.  Premiere with hardware acceleration checked is also quite glitchy, the program window doesn't update some times when I'm adjusting effects, I have to frame advance or scrub on the timeline to see the effects changes.  Also, the '~' key doesn't always maximize windows properly.  The computer running software Mercury playback is stable.  It's an excellent computer, despite the lack of full software support at the moment. It's much faster than my 1st gen Unibody Macbook Pro (which served me well and reliably over the years) I've had since new, so, I can make do for now.  I did update the Cuda drivers to the latest.  Hopefully, there will be an update from Adobe which won't be a long way off.  I did go ahead and make the feature request to Adobe. This is my experience with my computer so far, perhaps someone else can get Premiere Pro to run more stable with Hardware Mercury Plaback on their Macbook Retina.

-Jason


Jason, that's interesting. Would be nice if other could share their experience too. I'm still waiting for my new macbook (non-retin) but with same graphics. When I do, I will see how hardware mercury playback works. Maybe the lower display resolution won't stress the GPU to the same extent.. Time will show..

Carl

Participating Frequently
June 13, 2012

Hi,

Please, excuse me if I'm completely on the wrong track here as I'm not a Pro but shouldn't in theory the hack in this thread http://forums.adobe.com/thread/725572 work? It should be just a matter of adding the graphics card to the text file. It works for my GeForce GT 330M with 512MB VRAM. But to make sure you're better of asking Stu in the thread.

Cheers,

John T Smith
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 13, 2012

>works for my GeForce GT 330M with 512MB VRAM

Everything I have ever read about CUDA processing says that is impossible... the minimum vram required is 768Meg

See message 23 http://forums.adobe.com/thread/629557

Participant
June 13, 2012

Actually I reloaded the lates Nvidia drivers the other day on my windows 7 laptop  with a 330m card and what do you know, it now show that I have hardware CUDA enabled - I just have 500megs of ram on the card. This did not happen when I used the drivers that came with the Lenovo machine.

mypetfroguk
Participant
June 12, 2012

Been browsing the Adobe forums, and over here... and nothing yet on The MPE using the new GT650M card?

Anyone heard anything?

Adobe?

jasonvp
Inspiring
June 12, 2012

mypetfroguk wrote:

Been browsing the Adobe forums, and over here... and nothing yet on The MPE using the new GT650M card?

Anyone heard anything?

Adobe?

I think, perhaps, you're being way too aggressive and unrealistic in your expectations with regards to Adobe announcing support for the new card.  Official support will require a patch/update to CS6.  Don't expect word from the Adobe reps here until that happens.

Unofficial and unsupported use will have to be tested by folks who actually buy the MBPs and do the CUDA text file edit.  And since the laptops haven't actually shipped yet, no one's been able to do that.  If you're that curious, buy a new MBP and try it yourself.

jas

mypetfroguk
Participant
June 12, 2012

I think I'd be accused of being 'aggressive' if Adobe had this GPU sprung upon them.  However this will not be the case.  The processor has been around for a while, it's inclusion was rumoured many weeks if not months ago, and Apple will surely have been in discussions with Adobe about the inclusion of the processor (just like they were about the Retina display as Photoshop was shown at the WWDC yesterday and Apple said Adobe are already working on an update to utilise the retina display). Yes there will be a lead time, but I'm sure Adobe knew way before yesterday!

I'm merely asking the question, and for those editors looking to upgrade laptops it would be useful to know whether Adobe plan to include this GPU in it's approved list.  This is Apple's most powerful laptop ever (and a huge resource for pro video editors around the world) and it would be rather crazy for Adobe to ignore the potential of this machine, especially in their efforts to tempt FCP switchers over to Adobe Premiere CS6 (very evidently a target market).  So an early announcement can only help.  I don't think that's too unrealistic!

Participant
June 11, 2012

Will CS5 work with the Retina display? I understand that it will not be able to experience the benefits of the ultra-crisp Retina display, but will there be an issue where the CS5 software will not be functional?

Thanks!

mypetfroguk
Participant
June 11, 2012

Hi,

I doubt Adobe would update CS5 to work with the Retina displays.  Surely it's another reason for them to get you to upgrade (CS6 is well worth it btw!).

I'm sure Adobe have known about the use of the GT650M Nvidia chip for a while now (it's been touted as rumour for months), I guess I'm hoping that thay'll come out and announce it's inclusion.  It'll certainly help sway a lot of folk to upgrade to the new Retina MBP's, and given the power bumps also get people on CS5 and CS5.5 to uprade to CS6... using all that power is just too tempting

.

John T Smith
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 11, 2012

>anyone from Adobe comment... When will Adobe

Generally speaking, employees are not allowed to comment on plans, because plans sometimes change due to testing problems or other priorities

When something actually happens, or is VERY close to happening, an employee will sometimes post a notice