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Dominic Witherow
Inspiring
August 21, 2020
Question

ProRes RAW colour all wrong

  • August 21, 2020
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I have just used Prores RAW on my Ninja V, with my Lumix S1H for the first time. The footage looks perfect on the Ninja and all the monitors suggest it is correctly exposed. Yet in Premiere it is totally over-exposed and looks ******g awful! It's as though the RAW Log settings have been ignored and a generic r709 LUT applied. The footage is irretrievable in Premiere, despite looking amazing on the Ninja.

 

So, I imported it into FCPX, which I have but get angry with every time I open it because it just doesn't do what I want, but this time the same files which were unusable in PP are perfect in FCPX!!!!

 

What the hell is going on? I can't find any explanation online and have rebooted, reloaded etc as many times as seems worthwhile. Can anyone help?

 

Has Adobe announced and implemented Prores RAW 'support' as a joke only? I can't imagine this is deliberate, but I can't find enough information to conclude anything other than Prores RAW support on PP is still really only in beta.

 

Any suggestions???

 

Thanks,

Dominic

 

PS

Playback is flawless on my MBP 16". 

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Anonymous
December 24, 2020

I'm having the same problem with my Sony A7siii, the proRes Raw looks so good when I preview with QuickTime, but as soon as I open in premiere it looks god awful, full of noise, and highlights are really blown out, going into the master tab can't save it. Glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing this but still wondering if there's a solution besides switching to FCPX

R Neil Haugen
R Neil Haugen
Legend
August 21, 2020

For any of the meta-driven media, whether ProRes RAW, Bm BRAW, Arri, RED ... you go into the Master Clip tab in the ECP to access the specific controls for that media.

 

Currently, the one control available for PR RAW is "exposure" ... use that to bring down the highlights within the scopes ... and then use the standard Lumetri controls for everything else. You can use Lumetri either on the Master tab or the normal tab named for the clip.

 

Work on the Master tab will apply to all instances of that clip in the project.

 

Work on the regular named clip will only apply to that instance of that clip on that sequence.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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    Dominic WitherowAuthor
    Inspiring
    August 21, 2020

    kens Thanks Neil,

     

    Yes, I'm fully aware of the Master Clip RAW controls and they are present on my Prores RAW clips. However, the clips themselves have been so altered on ingest into PP that they remain unusable. There is a significant gamma shift, that has no clear way of pulling back and lowering the exposure to allow acceptable highlights darkens the rest of the image so much as to lose any benefit of the RAW in the first place. 

     

    The untreated file in FCPX is at its perfect starting point, with all scopes showing ideal exposure, skin tones etc and making adjustments is very easy. The identical file in PP, untreated in any way, is massively overexposed and incredibly hard to adjust appropriately. There is some fundamental flaw in this system.

    Professional film maker/editor since 2004, working on MBP M4 Max 128GB, 4TB SSD
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    Dominic WitherowAuthor
    Inspiring
    August 21, 2020

    UPDATE!

     

    Turns out that ProRes RAW in PP IS incomplete and, for all practical purposes, still a beta function. The following thread is from the official beta-testers forum and it's clear this is a major issue for which a fix has been promised for several months in a row. It's a bit rubbish that there's no warning of this significant problem in the official release notes. Adobe can do much better by their customers.

     

    Here's the link: https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta/discuss-prores-raw-support/m-p/11013854?page=3#M17 

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