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katharineann.s
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December 11, 2021
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Proxies blown out in but footage looks fine

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I have never tried making proxies before, but am taking a video class where the instructor asked us to.  I am shooting on a Sony A7III. Media Encoder and Premiere Pro are up to date. When I toggle to the proxy, the entire thing is blown out.  I have tried all the different format for proxies and the same thing is happening.  When I toggle back, my footage still looks fine.  Does anyone know why the proxies looking so blown out?  

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Correct answer Kevin J. Monahan Jr.

Hi Katharineann,

Sorry about that. It looks as though you may have shot the footage in HDR/HLG, and automatic interpretation of the footage kicked in - which is a new feature of v.22. This feature caught a lot of Sony and iPhone users unaware.

Are clips shot in HLG/HDR? If so, you may want to interpret them as Rec709 in the Modify > Interpret Footage dialog box. You may also need to create a new preset for proxies so that they match your color managed clips.

 

If this is all too much to deal with right now, you can always move back to the previous version of Premiere Pro and work with that until you have worked out all the details of a SDR vs. HDR workflow.

 

As a Sony user, you should take heed of this new feature - which you may wish to use or avoid (most casual users were fine with the previous workflow). Either way, you have to make a choice moving forward to embrace HDR or to move back to a Rec709 workflow. 

Hope the advice helps but come back with any questions.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

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kenw15738459
Participant
March 13, 2022

Solution here:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU-ChZ9txWE

    chrisw44157881
    chrisw44157881
    Inspiring
    March 14, 2022

    that doesn't reference the proxy issue. unless there's a way to change color management of just proxies, i'm all ears.

      R Neil Haugen
      R Neil Haugen
      Legend
      March 14, 2022

      You're correct, Chris, it doesn't fix the issue of this thread ... the proxy problem.

       

      Neil

      Everyone's mileage always varies ...
        R Neil Haugen
        R Neil Haugen
        Legend
        December 11, 2021

        There is a problem with the current CM for proxies. I've been in touch with a couple devs, who after testing what I sent them, noted there is clearly a problem.

         

        Premiere seems to make proxies from the original media without linking them to the CM applied to the original clip. Depending on what you or Premiere does to transform or not to either Rec.709 or HLG, you get different issues.

         

        That top image looks like a Rec.709 image. So have you used the Override to Rec.709 option and then used the original clips on a Rec.709 sequence?

         

        If not, did Premiere create a Rec.709 sequence and auto-transform the file to that color space?

         

        What I'm expecting ... is that the original is being shown as Rec.709, but the proxies are still HLG, and therefore being shown as if on an HDR timeline.

         

        Neil

        Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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          katharineann.sAuthor
          Participant
          December 11, 2021

          I dd not Override.  From what I can tell, Premiere created a Rec.709 sequence and auto-transformed the file.  The original is being shown as Rec.709.  I was able to create a ingest profile for media encoder that takes care of the blown out issue but haven't been able to get the colors to match.  Still playing around with it a bit but may just go back to older version of PP for tonight to get this project done for my class before I spend more time fussing with it.

          R Neil Haugen
          R Neil Haugen
          Legend
          December 11, 2021

          Yes, I would totally concur with going back to the older version for this project.

           

          Proxies ... seem to be blown right now for some media, and even I haven't figured out a way around that. If anyone DOES come up with a way to create a proxy preset that works with CM -overriden clips, PLEASE post it here!

           

          Neil

          Everyone's mileage always varies ...
          R Neil Haugen
          R Neil Haugen
          Legend
          December 11, 2021

          There's a problem with the 2022 version with proxies and some Log and HLG original media.

           

          Is your original media a log or HLG format? Have you checked the clip properties, or used the Modify/Interpret Footage CM section to change the use of this from something to something? What is your sequence color management (CM) set to, also?

           

          Neil

          Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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          katharineann.sAuthor
          Participant
          December 11, 2021

          My original media is in a custom picture profile that does use HLG.  Thank you!

          Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
          Community Manager
          Kevin J. Monahan Jr.Community ManagerCorrect answer
          Community Manager
          December 11, 2021

          Hi Katharineann,

          Sorry about that. It looks as though you may have shot the footage in HDR/HLG, and automatic interpretation of the footage kicked in - which is a new feature of v.22. This feature caught a lot of Sony and iPhone users unaware.

          Are clips shot in HLG/HDR? If so, you may want to interpret them as Rec709 in the Modify > Interpret Footage dialog box. You may also need to create a new preset for proxies so that they match your color managed clips.

           

          If this is all too much to deal with right now, you can always move back to the previous version of Premiere Pro and work with that until you have worked out all the details of a SDR vs. HDR workflow.

           

          As a Sony user, you should take heed of this new feature - which you may wish to use or avoid (most casual users were fine with the previous workflow). Either way, you have to make a choice moving forward to embrace HDR or to move back to a Rec709 workflow. 

          Hope the advice helps but come back with any questions.

           

          Thanks,
          Kevin

          Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
            rachelcenter
            rachelcenter
            Legend
            April 29, 2022

            i have shoot that was shot flag/log with sony cameras i think. When I choose interpret footage, and choose Rec709, the footage looks fine IF THE PROXY BUTTON IS OFF. the minute i turn BACK ON THE PROXY BUTTON the footage looks horrendous, and its only blown out but its these wild outrageous colors. how do I fix the proxy footage looking ridiculous?

            R Neil Haugen
            R Neil Haugen
            Legend
            April 29, 2022

            In the public beta. You create the proxies same as always but make sure the proxy preset has the SDR Conform option checked "on".

             

            And you can have the beta and regular both installed. Open the project in the beta, close it. Open and work in regular version.

             

            Neil

            Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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