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R Neil Haugen
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October 2, 2023
Question

Shoot 29.97i or convert for deliverable?

  • October 2, 2023
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I have a proposed upcoming project under early discussions. It's for a non-profit,  where the more likely destination is client web use. But, if possible, it would be pitched to public TV.

 

Local public uses NPB standards, everything in 29.97i drop-frame. Of course that's 59.94.

 

That would not be my primary choice to shoot in. But I know a workable practice has been shoot 24p, edit, then take to Ae and do 3:2 pull-down.

 

Is that still the best thing, other than shooting in interlaced?

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 2, 2023

Thanks for those responding ... but perhaps I'd also like @Jarle Leirpoll , @Warren Heaton10841144 , and @Michael Grenadier to opine? I do like a range of experienced thoughts. The more the merrier ...

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Legend
October 2, 2023

Just finished a pbs cutdown.  I was told to deliver 29.97, but the piece was mastered as 24p   Gonna see if 24p will be accepted...  I've mentioned this to the client, but as usual, radio silence.   Not sure what the best way to add pulldown to make it 29.97...    If I remember correctly not a simple process to get the best quality, bwdik...   

Legend
October 3, 2023

Michal Grenadier,

 

You know your master, but I can assure you that 24fps is not 23.976fps. (Though I do believe there was a time when some camera menues conflated one with the other.)

 

R.


In my understanding, 24p is not 24 fps.    it's 23.976.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p.   Unfortunately these terms are often used improperly...  and there is some ambiguity about this as you can see in this wikipedia article...   And you'll see 29.97 fps called 30 fps, improperly in my opinion.   Neil, in his initial post clearly is talking about 23.976.   But it's always important to be clear in how you use the terms and using 24p (and adding 23.976 to the description) can not hurt.  

Remote Index
October 2, 2023

Hello R Neil Haugen,

 

I think your proposed workflow is best and will give you most long term flexibility.

 

I suggest shooting 23.98p or 29.97p and doing a conversion at the end or their specific delivery requirements. (I haven't used AE to do conversions before.)

 

R.

Ann Bens
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Community Expert
October 2, 2023

If they want interlaced > shoot interlaced.

Community Expert
October 2, 2023

You could shoot 59.94P