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SLog3 footage coming in with LUT applied, unable to change or remove.

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November 1, 2021
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I recently update to Premiere 2022, and now I am unable to grade ir color correct any footage I import from my Sony FX6. The clips are SLog3. When I import them into Premiere, they have the appearance of a LUT already having been applied (I assume rec709, as that it about hwo I expect them to look). However, if I click on any clip, and interpret footage, Premiere claims no LUT has been applied. Oddly enough, if I open any of the source clips, they appear correct (flat, with no color grading applied). But if I bring them into the timeline, they become just like all the others, with the colors changed. Source tab for any clips in the effects window is completely empty, so there is no LUT there to remove.

Especially frustrating is that I CANNOT change/grade/color correct any of the clips beyond how Premiere imports them. Not adjustments in Lumetri have any impact. I don't feel like I am doing anything incorrectly here, but perhaps there is something I am overlooking about how this works in the new version? I did everything exactly the same in the previous version, and had zero issues like this.

Specs:

Premiere 22.0.0

macOS Big Sur 11.2.1

iMac 27 inch 2019

Processor: 3.6 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9

Memory: 64 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

Graphics: Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB

Fergus H

Community Manager

Hi all,

I am locking this thread because many changes have been made in the color features of Adobe's video products since the thread was first created. Anyone coming across this old thread who has questions about color - and particularly handling of log files - should create a new thread.

Regards,

Fergus

kirstyc1092575

Participating Frequently

Having the same issue, easily resolved by interpreting footage to Rec.709 colour space but this is a frustrating time consuming issue. I am now having issues with edits I have coloured in Davinvi, trying to bring them into Prem to finish up and they have a nasty looking LUT applied. Have tried interpreting the footage in this situation and it is not working.

Can someone help me understand how we get this complaint to people who will change it?

R Neil Haugen

Legend

What are your timeline and export settings in Resolve? I go forth & back all the time without issues.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

kirstyc1092575

Participating Frequently

I export out of Davinci as pro res, haven't had issues before but with the 2023 update of Prem it's doing the same thing, applying some weird LUT over my colour graded footage. Sooo frustrating. In the end I ended up just finishing the edit in Davinci, might make the full move over if this continues. Interrupts my workflow too much!

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Frederick26086620bbs5

Participant

figured it out! My GF did actually.

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Frederick26086620bbs5

Participant

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/faq-how-to-fix-saturated-over-exposed-hlg-hdr-clips-in-premiere-pro-v-22/td-p/12489252

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Frederick26086620bbs5

Participant

You have to go to modify >interpret footage>color space overide>709

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Adnan A. Nazzal

Participating Frequently

same issue happened to me , less dynamic range and different colors

My footage was taken by sony FX6.

the only solution i did is i switched back to 2021 version

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Did you do any color management work with that in Premiere ... which is (bizarrely to me) in the Project panel ... right-click, Modify/Interpret Footage ...

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Shunlee3762730939tp

Participant

interpret footage is grey, it cannot be clicked

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davidatkinsontv

Participant

Hey folks!

So I think I solved this problem.

1. Go to the footage on the timeline that's already got the LUT applied > Right Click > "Reveal In Project".

2. Find selected clip in the media window (mine is bottom left screen as default) > Right click the clip > go to "modify > in drop down menu select "Interpret Footage"

3. Interpret footage opens a window > go to the bottom in "colour management" > select Color Space Override > I picked Rec.709.

That should flatten your footage from whatever stupid setting adobe force onto footage! Allowing you to use your own LUTs.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

For the nth time, that isn't a LUT ... it's a color management problem. Very different things. There is no LUT being applied here. Period.

It's due to all HDR media being log encoded, and some SDR/Rec.709 media being log-encoded. And their brand spanking new complete redesign under-the-hood color handling having teething issues when dealing with some log-encoded media.

And assuming it should be treated as HLG ... hybrid log-gamma ... when the user would prefer SDR/Rec.709.

Color Management 101. And yea, that's new with Pr2022, which has a ton of new CM settings and defaults and such for us users to learn about.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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davidatkinsontv

Participant

Dude chill! You don't have to respond to every comment if you've said it
loads of times 🙂 peace.

Would you know how to change the default to stop it automatically treating
it as HLG and just putting the files in flat?
Cheers.

wadeh757

Participant

This worked for me. "Select all video clips in the bin. then right click modify. then right click interpret footage and then go to the bottom and select color space override and pick rec 709. "It defaults to "use media colorspace from file" I think that s the bug...

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icimarco

Participant

That works for me thanks !

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Kraig23516210wsdi

Participant

I also just ran into this issue! My only solution has been to revert back to the 2021 version which solves the problem with my FX6 footage. Othere than that, I cannot find a better soltution. SONY & ADOBE PLEASE FIX THIS!!!

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Which media is it?

I ask because another user with S-log3.cine clips was able to use the option to Override to Rec.709 and get their clips working.

And if you install the public beta (which you can have installed at the same time as the shipping version) they have a new option there for Sony & Panny log media, in the Modify/Interpret Footage color management section.

You can use the public beta on a Pr2022 project, then open back in the shipping version without troubles.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

am22482702

Participant

Hey OP, I just ran into this issue today and I'm looking for a fix. We have FX6 SLog3 clips. We have the same issue but only with the clips shot in High Sensitivity mode. Base ISO clips are fine. So I don't know if Premiere is having an issue reading those specific clips. Don't know what your clips were shot at but this may help narrow it down.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

What does Premiere show for color space for those clips, and what for the ones that import ok?

Note, Premiere's completely new underlying color system is having some issues with certain log-encoded formats from some cameras. You see, all HDR is log-encoded, and 'typical' SDR/Rec.709 media is ... perhaps call it ... integer-encoded. But some SDR/Rec.709 media is also log-encoded. And that's clearly tripping Pr up, as for some log-encoded clips it is displaying them as if they are HLG, but ... isn't also allowing for an override action to Rec.709.

The cameras noted are certain Sony and Panny cameras ... and the engineers have acknowledged this, and have been working on a fix, but it's been known for over a month now. Don't know when we'll get that fix.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

am22482702

Participant

For the clips that work (shows as flat profile) it lists Color Space: Rec. 709. This is with Sony FX6 Base ISO setting.

For the clips that don't work (shows as if a lut is applied) it lists Color Space: Sony S-Log3/S-Gamut3.Cine. This is with the High Sensitivity setting. DjangoAgterberg's

I did use DjangoAgterberg's workaround and have the Color Space Override option now while Interpreting footage. Setting to Rec. 709 gave the clips flat color in the sequence.

DjangoAgterberg

Participant

Same problem, and yes I have read tons of forum posts and youtube videos, but still I can't find any sollution. Working with Sony FX6 material. Material in bin have the SLOG3 look and once I put them in my sequence it blows up with saturation and over exposure. There is no input LUT, sequence settings are REC 709. Before (Premiere 15) there was no problem. I tried to tweak all buttons and possibilities, but I can't find a sollution. And I'm in desperate need, because my deadlines are getting closer and closer.

Working in Premiere 22.2 (also tried 22.0, but same issue)
OS Big Sur 11.3.1

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014)

4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7

32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

DjangoAgterberg

Participant

Solved with the help of client support. I didn't have the color management option of 'color space override'. Apparently "there might be a possibility that there might be a problem with workspaces." Please do the following: "reset the preferences and see if it works. there might be a possibility that there would be a problem with workspaces. So I would request you to close the premiere pro application and go to the following location: Document > adobe > premiere pro > rename it to premiere pro old. Please note:- You might loose your Keyboard Shortcuts, Presets, MOGRT files."

This worked perfectly, and now I do have that setting. Phew!

R Neil Haugen

Legend

That's interesting, that on some rigs a Prefs reset works for this also. Yea, and it's a good thing to keep your main prefs stuff saved in a second folder, so you can reset prefs, then put your KB shorts back in place.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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default6ho8xsl2lhys

Participant

Had this same thing happen to me. If you shot in RAW on your FX6/Cine-EI, withinn your bin, double click the video and in the effects controls there should be a drop down menu for you to switch color grades/looks.

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