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JonesVid
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Support of HD/HDV capture in Latest Premiere versions 2023

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So after building a brand new Windows 11 64bit editing PC based on Intel 13900K and new motherboard I'm also having a springclean/sort out of old media including DV/HDV tapes and media library on my storage HDD's.

I have discovered some old HDV tapes from an Italy tour we did in 2007 that were only transcribed from DV, edited then  to DVD as my old PC back in 2007 would not cope with HDV very well.

I never captured them in HDV back in 2007 but have dusted off my Sony A1E camcorder which still works OK and have the IEEE Firewire cable ready.

As the new motherboards don't support IEEE 1394 ports anymore, looks like I will have to buy a PCI Express IEEE 1394 card for the new motherboard.

But before I do want to check my queries below.

So to the main question - rather than stumble about finding 'the gotchas'  - has anyone been successfully capturing old HDV material from tapes using the Capture support function in the latest Premiere 23.4 (or other recent) version?.

If 23.4 has issues - then looks as if I will have to use an older version of Premiere - but which one of the last versions is best ?

 

As a bonus if I can find the old Premiere Project file I can re-edit the video in 1080 HD quality (or near enough)

Any help/comments welcomed which will save me some time.

 

 

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Correct answer JonesVid

@Ann Bens 

Neither one works on W11?

If so, I guess I'll need to keep an old computer for capturing when I go to W11 on my editing computers.


So I thought it would be useful to update on my final findings on this question of HDV Capture support in the latest Premiere Pro 2023 (V23.4).

1. Using the Capture Window in Premiere Pro 2023

This does work and successfully stores HDV Clips with MPEG2 codec (I assume).

These can be Imported without problem onto your Timeline and also saved as 1080 HD files after editing

The behaviour of the capture window is somewhat inconsistent and you need to start Premiere Project (for the capture) each time to access settings for the Video and Audio storage folders.

It has annoying preset folder names  for Video/Audio which are not necessary. You have to manage these yourself in Windows explorer afterwards.

I'm using Windows 11 64 Bit with an Nvidia 2070 Super Card with 531.61 Studio Driver - but there is no Video Capture display available in Premiere. Many users report this.

I did want to mess with using Microsoft Basic Display drivers on this W11 machine.

I'm assuming that no maintenance of this Premiere Capture Window has been done for a few years - just left there and by chance it does capture from Tape onto Hard disc. I did not try DV tapes.

Its not high priority in today's 4K/8K world but when you have historical / precious HDV footage you want to re/edit and use, then backing  up the tapes is important.

 

2. Using HDV-Split

As regards comments above, I did try this out on my Windows 11 PC and it behaves the same way as the Premiere Pro window. - No Capture Video monitor. It stores HDV clips OK on latest version of Windows 11 64 Bit. So works to do that.

HDV-Split asked for [ffdShow] to install the MPEG 2 codec (to see capture video) but it is already on the machine. This program is 2002!.

HDV-Split is also a very old utility now and way out of support /maintenance - so take your chances.

Useful if Adobe delete the HDV Capture Window on future versions though !!

 

3. ...and finally ....Matrox RTX 100 HDV Footage

As a person who owned one of these cards in the corridors of time - note that the AVi files it produces from HDV tapes I now found to be useless.

They are split Video AVI /Audio WAV  but the AVI codec it uses seems very specific.

Latest Premiere Pro does not read it - not even after installing the very last version of Matrox Codecs. Made no difference on Windows 11.

So the only way I can see to use Video on my HDV tapes is to re-capture the tapes with Mpeg 2 codec as above. Oh ......

If you have a very old PC hanging around you might be able to get something working on Windows 7 but what a hassle?.

 

that's progress for you ....

 

 

 

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Peru Bob
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Peru BobCommunity Expert
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June 8, 2023

I use these programs for capture:

WinDV   WinDV

HDVSplit   HDVSplit 0.77 beta

JonesVid
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June 8, 2023

Thanks for the input on WinDV

I see this is quite an old utility now - 2003 was last version - the distant history of Win XP

Still, I suppose it it allows me to extract the HDV video clips then that is fine.

Does it work on Win 11 ok?

I have used Premiere Pro (earlier versions way back) to succesfully capture the video off my HDV camcorder but not done that for some time.

As 23.4 had the facility in the File menu I thought I would ask the community

I've ordered my IEEE car so will try them both out in a few days.

 

Peru Bob
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Peru BobCommunity Expert
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June 8, 2023

WinDV is for DV

HDVSplit is for HDV and works on Windows 10, so will probably work on Windows 11.

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