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ENETTEL
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November 18, 2023
Question

Transcript deleted when cleaning audio track in Audtion

  • November 18, 2023
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Currenlty working on Premiere Pro 24.0 on a Mac OS Ventura 13.6.1.

We work with clients that require a transcript in a text file once we finalize a video. We normally leave this step to the very end of our editing process. We have enabled auto-transcription of our raw footage. Once we have the final edit (including cleaning audio), we check the transcript and manually correct any mistakes that the software might have generated. We create captions if needed and output the text transcript.

 

We recently discovered that if we send an audio file to Audition for clean up, as soon as we save the file, Premiere erases the transcript as it considers the clean audio file as a new source file. This means, we have to transcribe the footage once more, and then check it once again for any mistakes the software might have generated, which is doubling our work.


Before this new version of Premiere, we used to clean audio files and that would not affect the transcripts at all. From our point of view, we think this is a bug. Once you have corrected a transcript, the system should recognize it even if you clean it in audition. For the time being, we will have to either limit any audio clean up to the tools in Premiere or do any transcription after audio clips are cleaned up in Audition. Thought of sharing in case someone has faced a similar situation.

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    Kerstin Ebert
    Adobe Employee
    Kerstin Ebert
    Adobe Employee
    November 20, 2023

    Hello @ENETTEL,

     

    @Stan Jones' suggestion is correct. The transcripts of your cleaned up clips are lost (at least in sequence view – the transcript of the original audio still exists in source view) because you are replacing the original audio with a cleaned up, extracted wav file which needs to be transcribed again.

     

    If you really just need the transcript of only what's in your timeline, simply open your sequence, go to Text panel -> ... -> Generate static transcript. This will create a static transcript of the audio in your sequence. Please keep in mind that a static transcript does not update when you make changes in your timeline, like moving clips around. It's the best option to choose when you only need the transcript at the end of your workflow, or when you have lots of audio effects/clean ups.

     

    Best,

    Kerstin

    Stan Jones
    Community Expert
    Stan JonesCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    November 19, 2023

    I cannot get the transcript to remain using PR 2023.6.2, 2024.0.3, or PR Beta 24.2.0.15. What version were you using that worked?

     

    I am assuming you use "Edit clip in audition," which creates an audio extracted .wav file, replaces it for the audio in the clip in the sequence, keeps it linked with the video, and immediately loses the transcript. This is logical, since it IS a different audio stream. If you double-click the clip in the timeline, it opens the ORIGINAL clip, with the transcribed audio, and you can see the transcript in source monitor view. But that is the whole clip, not the edited portion.

     

    Workaround. If you need the transcripts for text-based editing, then generate them at the beginning for that purpose. Then, after audio cleaning, select the edited audio wav files, select all of them (if more than one clip), right-click and "transcribe." And you will have the sequence transcript back (the sequence transcript consisting of the parts of the source actually used in the sequence). OR since you're at the end, just select the timeline, confirm that you are in Program Monitor view in the Text panel/transcript tab, 3 dot menu, static transcript. Then use that transcript for correction.

     

    Does that work?

     

    Edit: Corrected "re-transcribe" to "transcribe" for the wav files. I tested the transcribe wav in 24.0.3, and it worked.

     

    @Alexander_DVA @Kerstin Ebert Am I missing something? How is this supposed to work?

     

    Stan

     

     

     

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