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August 16, 2021
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Transform effect + shutter angle is messing up clip position

  • August 16, 2021
  • 18 replies
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Hello!

 

I am using the transform effect for minor animations because of its motion blur abilities when using shutter angle. Lately however it seems like the shutter angle is messing with the positioning of the anchor point or something like that.

 

For example I wanted an image to rotate a couple times around its own midpoint like a wheel, this worked perfectly fine, then I adjusted the shutter angle to simulate motion blur and all of a sudden the image is rotating around a point somewhere just offscreen. 

 

The same thing happened when I did only a small scale animation, I made an image pop out a bit by having the scale increase in a short amount of time, then I adjust the shutter angle and now it doesn't pop out of its own middle but from some angle in the screen. 

 

The amount of shutter angle does not matter, it either does not happen when it's off or happens all the way when either barely or fully adjusted.

 

Am I goofing? or is this not supposed to happen? Any advice is appreciated!!

Correct answer Jend32771894jr0n

Its incredible - this issue hasnt been fixed for 4 years. Nesting is a disturbing work around that harms the workflow. Adobe please fix a basic effect that hasnt been working for 4 years...

 

Picture 1 and two demomstrates the position of the emoji where the only difference is a shutter angle on 50 on picture 2, which for some annoying reason completely misplaces the emoji to some random place instead of the center

18 replies

ItsDezMan
Inspiring
June 15, 2022

Adobe, is there a fix coming for this? It's a bug in the software. All these workarounds are cumbersome.

Christian.Z
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 26, 2022

This is known to happen, especially if transform is combined with something else. Consider nesting

Richard van den Boogaard
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 26, 2022

Please make sure to check the option Scale to Frame size in the context menu.

 

I just tested it on a 6K source clip on a 1080p timeline and with the option checked, rotation is from the center.

 

If you need to apply the effect to different part of the image, please scale it to the desired size first, create a nested sequence and apply the transform effect to that nest.

Lidor
Participant
March 25, 2022

I've been having this same issue for a long time. There's a workaround that works for me most of the time - nest the clip and apply the transform effect on the nested sequence. I hope this helps!

Participant
March 21, 2024

thank you much kind sir, it worked

Participant
December 13, 2021

Same happened to me. So in my case, i have a video clip that is tilted horizontally. I wanted to make it upright so I added one "Transform" and change the "Rotation" of the whole clip to 270 degrees (without keyframes, i didnt do any movement, just rotated the clip). Then later on, i wanted to do a zoomed in effect of that clip. I used the same "Transform" and added keyframes for "Position" and "Scale". It all works fine, the "Transform" did exactly what I intend on using it for. The clip is rotated and the zoom in effect is present. But for the zoom in part, i wanted some motion blur, so on the same "Transform" tab, i increase the shutter angle, but the whole clip moves. It's as if it is cut off and moved off frame. Like the original comment mentioned, the value of shutter angle doesnt determine how far off the clip is messed up. It's either 0 and it's fine, or any shutter angle applied and it's messed up.

 

Sorry, this is not a solution, just want to add my side of the problem if anyone knows what's up

Participant
December 16, 2021

I have the same exact problem, I wish I could post a video. 
Shutter angle will not be applied, after using "Scale" and "Rotation" in "Transform" effects. The PNG file, in this case the logo will change position, way off centre. 
There appears to be two axis to the PNG file, and it’s impossible to align them without changing the other. 
It is a really annoying bug, as After Effects does not seem to support the animation made inside Premiere as it will not apply any blur, unless it’s directional. 

Joost van der Hoeven
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 17, 2021

Are you using the Transform Effect?

Known Participant
August 17, 2021

Yes only the transform effect on a .png image for either rotation or scaling animation.

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
August 16, 2021

Any other effects applied to the clip? Let me know, Petro.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
Known Participant
August 17, 2021

No it happens with only the transform effect as well. I read somewhere that this could be due to no GPU acceleration enabled, in my settings ''renderer'' is set to ''Mercury Playback Engine GPU Acceleration (Metal) - Recommended''

 

However, I am on a 2020 iMac with an ''AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 16 GB'' graphics card, and I have read somewhere else that premiere does not properly support this card so acceleration would not be fully functioning. Could that be the problem?

 

Thanks for your reply!!

Community Expert
August 16, 2021

Exactly which effect are you using, I can't find one with shutter angle blur.

Ignore I've just found it.

Community Expert
August 16, 2021

On my PC it rotates around the centre anchor with any setting of shutter angle.

Richard van den Boogaard
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 26, 2022

On mine too, but with oversized clips that do not match the timeline, apparently you need to check Scale to Framesize first.