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Upgrading from Premiere 2014.2 version to current Premiere 2019

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January 1, 2019
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Hi! Just realised I'm still on version Premiere 2014.2 (not sure why as always click updates??!) .... so I want to upgrade to current Premiere. Two questions:

1. Are there any issues or risks I should take into account?

I've been checking out some audio issues recently online and have read that some Premiere project audio files get lost when doing a Premiere upgrade with a big jump across versions - is there any proven and tested advice about this issue with audio files? Or any other issues with upgrading? I have several important projects that I am currently working on and it would be a big problem if the project files got disrupted.

2. How can I ensure that my version of Premiere gets automatically upgraded?

Best

Chris

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twinkle21Author

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OK, so the laptop screen is fixed (ouch!! $$$$!! no holiday for me this year!)

So, according to the advice I have gathered, I now have to:

(a) Move my current video projects from the laptop to an external hard-drive (and continue working on them from there) as my laptop memory is too full - only 48 GB left of 999GB!

My concern: I seem to remember doing this in the past, and then having problems with the file pathway getting lost between the clips in the premiere timeline and the original files in their folder. I.e. the video project is looking for the clips on the laptop but they clips are now on the external hard-drive.

Is this an issue these days? If so, how manage that?

(b) Clarify if the "clone" back up in my Mac Time Machine is the same kind of clone back-up you guys are referring to"?

My understanding of a clone back up is that I can "run" my whole machine from the hard-drive - never done this but I imagine it something like plugging the hard drive into another computer (or just a keyboard and monitor?) and then I can run the hard-drive like a normal computer? (sorry if this reveals great ignorance on my part!).

However, at the Apple store they explained that the clone back up on the Time Machine cannot be "run" from the time machine. Rather, you have that Time Machine clone and then you can re-install/reformat your entire laptop using the clone back up in it's entirety. And that the risk with my old version of Premiere Pro is that the application may not install properly again.

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.... so I'm feeling a bit stuck as not sure if/how I can move my Video Projects to an external hard-drive and carry on working on them...

plus... not sure I understand the kind of clone back up I need to do, in order to safely upgrade my Premiere Pro....??

Got so much going on atm that have v limited headspace for working these things out, however of course writing it all down here helps to break up the next steps

Thanks so much

Best

Chris

twinkle21Author

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Progress and hitches over here... sharing here in case useful for anyone in the future and in case anyone has any tips going forward:

Key Questions at this stage... steps so far outlined below:

Question:

Q1: Does anyone know if the Project Manager moves projects+files and ensure that all the files stay linked?

Q2: Is there a way you can check the "file pathway" for the clips on the timeline? So you know which original file they are linking to?

Q3: As part of the testing process, can I simply move the original project+file to another place, and then move it back to it's original place and the files are all still linked up?

Steps:

1. Uninstalled the old Creative Cloud and used a cleaner app to remove all traces of the old Creative Cloud app.

Installed the latest Creative Cloud and installed the latest Premiere Pro in the Creative Cloud.

Handily, the old Premiere Pro version (2014) stays there in the Creative Cloud, so if I want/need to, I can still open the 2014 Premiere Pro and open old project files in there if I need to. The old Premiere Pro apps only go if u expressly uninstall and remove them.

Adobe tech support were on hand for all of that and they were great.

Yes! Progress!

2. Ticked on auto updates when installed the new Creative Cloud, so hopefully that works ok.

3. Next up: relocating my video project and source clips to External Hard Drive as my laptop is too full. Issue now is to make sure all the files are linked to the project file in their new location and make sure I can work from there *before* deleting the original files from the laptop.

So far not completely sorted but here is where I am:

(a) Copied project file and source clips to external drive. Opened Premiere Pro 2019 from the Creative Cloud and opened project file from External Hard Drive.

Check for unlinked/missing files in timeline. However, it all looks fine and there are no missing/unlinked files in the sequence that opens in the timeline on opening. Some confusion reigns and I try again. Tech support seem to think this shouldn't happen.

I realise that maybe this is happening because all the original files are still on the laptop, so the timeline clips (opened from the project file on the ext HD) could maybe still be working via all the files on the laptop.

hmmmm....

4. Possible steps forward:

(a) Tech support suggests using the Project Manager: Copy, consolidate, transcode, and archive your Adobe Premiere Pro project

But i'm not sure if that really helps as it seems just another way to copy projects/files? Does anyone know if the Project Manager moves projects+files and ensure that all the files stay linked?

(b) Is there a way you can check the "file pathway" for the clips on the timeline? So you know which original file they are linking to?

(c) Tech support also suggests moving the original project+files from their current location as a way of testing where the clips in the external HD version are linking to. I'm wary of moving the original project+file until I'm 100% sure that the external HD version works. This is massively important work for me, and I have an ethical responsibility to collaborators/contributors.

Is it as simple as: can I simply move the original project+file to another place, and then move it back to it's original place and the files are all still linked up?

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Any tips gratefully received, am heading over to technical support now, so lets see how it goes...!

Cris

R Neil Haugen

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If you're moving projects, it's handier if they have a cohesive folder structure on disc, as then you simply copy the whole structure to a new location.

Then copy your old project file to whatever structure you now use for project files.

Open the new version of Pr, in Media Browser navigate to and select the old project file, then Import that into your new project.

You'll probably have bins with items with question marks on them. Take the first one, and right-click/locate. In the dialogue select it, then navigate to the new location. Pr will relink to that file and as many others of the project that it sees.

Continue until they've all linked.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

twinkle21Author

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Re clone, I’ve checked this and found that as I’m on Mac the automatic backup system “time machine” is already a clone.

Other news from here is that on the way home after Xmas break, it seems my laptop screen got damaged so it’s now with the apple store for a rather expensive repair - a great start to 2019!!

x

Stan Jones

Community Expert

I feel your pain!

twinkle21Author

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thanks stan and neil, that's really helpful....

a clone of the drive sounds like a good idea.... any recommendations for how to do that?

currently hands full with little one but little back back at nursery next week, so hopefully will have headspace to start learning new things as this all takes me into unchartered territory!

best

chris

Stan Jones

Community Expert

Re clone, I'm on Windows and use Macromium.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

That's been awhile ... huh. And this all presumes you are on either Win10 or a newer Mac OS. 2019 will not work with older OS's.

Ok ... first the default behavior of the CC app when installing a new version has been changed from "remove prior versions" to "keep prior versions" ... BUT! ... always go into the advanced options and make sure it will keep previous versions.

Next, never "open" an older version project in Pr. ALWAYS create new projects in the new version, then using the Media Browser, navigate to and import the previous version project file. This does a much better job of getting all information and meta of the old project properly into the new version.

Much more reliable and stable.

Also it guarantees you can simply use the older project file in its version and keep working.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

Stan Jones

Community Expert

https://forums.adobe.com/people/R+Neil+Haugen wrote
Ok ... first the default behavior of the CC app when installing a new version has been changed from "remove prior versions" to "keep prior versions" ... BUT! ... always go into the advanced options and make sure it will keep previous versions.

Except that they changed the behavior in 2019, so that if you pick "autoupdate" it removes old versions:

New Auto Update Feature

I have had PR uninstall old versions when it should not have. I believe you should always have a clone of your drive. Many older versions of PR are no longer available to install if they are accidentally uninstalled, or your hard drive fails, or whatever.

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