Where did all the numeric-keypad shortcuts go in Premiere CC 2017?

[FilmTraveler]

After upgrading to CC 2017, I found all the numeric keypad shortcuts have been removed! Am I the only one?

Adobe, why in God's name would you do this? It will take half an hour to add in all the shortcut keys and their modifiers! These are keys I've used for TEN YEARS, and even when I pick an older set of shortcuts such as CS6, the keypad is totally omitted. The four arrow keys, the Home and End, everything.

It is baffling how they could introduce such as useful new shortcut-management feature, and for absolutely no useful reason, remove 1/5 of the shortcuts and make us all reconstruct them from scratch.

Adobe, please restore these keys, or else create a feature where all the shortcuts assigned to one key can be copied to another, including modifiers.

[Peru Bob]

See if this helps:

New Premiere Pro Shortkeys

[FilmTraveler]

Thank you for the suggestion, but that isn't relevant to my issue. That other thread is about a French keyboard not having the US shortcuts (for which their solution was to copy the US keyboard file to the French folder, totally irrelevant to me). And when you look at their screenshots, they have the exact same issue: the numeric keypad has NO shortcuts assigned.

[Unreasonable Media]

Open a brand new, blank project and edit your keyboard shortcuts from there. You should see the missing options. I don't know why, but it worked for me.

[excited_Genie16B8]

What shortcuts are assigned to the number pad?  I don't think I've ever seen any.

[FilmTraveler]

Unreasonable Media:  This has no effect for me. When you say "it worked for me," do you mean that you see the numeric keypad shortcuts on your keyboard map?

Jim_Simon:  The shortcuts assigned to the number pad have always been there, and have always worked whenever NumLock is off. The arrow keys (up down left right), the PageUp and PageDown, Home and End, Delete, have always done the same thing that the standalone keys do. (Just like in every other Windows program.)

Why do the responses I'm seeing keep seeming to suggest I'm crazy and that you're not seeing what I see? Is nobody simply looking at the keyboard map and seeing there are NO shortcuts assigned to the number-pad keys anymore? Has everyone somehow suddenly forgotten that you used to hit Enter on the keypad to render all Timeline previews? I am NOT the only one who ever used these keys!!! This is nuts.

[stefan_gru]

I'll ask internally why these Num keypad shortcuts were dropped. Interestingly enough, it looks like Premiere Pro CC 2017 does a better job of indicating which keyboard shortcuts are actually mapped to the Num keypad than earlier versions did. I just checked with Premiere Pro CC 2015 and assigned Num keypad 9 to toggle the Time Ruler Numbers on and off. The Keyboard Shortcuts dialog box shows only "9", so at a glance I can't tell whether it's the regular 9 key or the Num keypad's 9:

(In fact, the regular 9 key is already mapped, in both versions, to Select Camera 9.)

But in Premiere Pro CC 2017, the Keyboard Shortcuts dialog box clearly shows that I've mapped the Num keypad 9 to that toggle:

[FilmTraveler]

Stefan: Thanks for the insight; I think it's a great idea having them be mapped separately, as you point out is now being done. Now that they're treated as separate keys, however, they should come out of the box already mapped the same way they were before, so it doesn't break prior habits. Then we can change them to our heart's content. Don't you agree?

Jim_Simon: Please don't post if you're not contributing to the conversation. Simply saying you didn't know something is not helpful, and neither is asking why someone would ever work differently than the way you work. Thank you.

[excited_Genie16B8]

Simply saying you didn't know something is not helpful, and neither is asking why someone would ever work differently than the way you work.

It's a learning experience for me.  Knowing why someone does something I don't might spark an idea on how to proceed.

[FilmTraveler]

Whoops; I apologize, Jim. I misread your comments as being snooty, like "Why would anyone do THAT?" I was quite mistaken. To answer your questions properly: Yes, the numeric keypad did have keyboard shortcuts (arrow keys, page up, home, etc) and I used them all the time! And yes, I turn off NumLock regularly; I only use the actual numbers on the keypad when I'm using a calculator, so the rest of the time I use the arrow keys, Enter, Insert, Delete, etc. The keypad is right there next to the mouse, so it's wayyy more efficient to pop over and use those keys then move my hand further and use the dedicated ones--and efficiency is key when I'm video editing. Now it's become muscle memory. So, if you can imagine them suddenly removing 17 of the keys you use in your job every day, you'll get a sense of how it feels. Sorry again for misreading your responses.

[excited_Genie16B8]

worked whenever NumLock is off.

Why would you turn that off?  All those functions have their own keys.

[MyerPj]

I have the same issue. It's us that use the numeric key pad with Num Lock off. The keys should then work the same as always. <Home>, <End>, <PgUp>, <PgDn>, <DEL> and <ENTER>.

Now with a quick reach to the Numeric Keypad <Enter> to render something, no go, so I have to move over to the regular enter key. <Del> is the most problematic and the most natural to press. Not only is it not set, but it appears it can not be set. I've got <Home> and <End> working OK, not as flexible as the dedicated ones, same with <PgUp> and <PgDn>.

[MyerPj]

By the way, when you program the <Del> key with the same options as the default <Backspace> key has, then you ONLY GET THEM if NUM LOCK IS ON!!!

That's wrong, it should be the opposite, and now if you turn on Num Lock, you can't type a "." (period) using the <Del - .> key.

I think it's just a bit of teething problems with the new method, and the programmers may default to numlock on, but it would be good if we knew it was being taken care of.

thanks

mp

[stefan_gru · Accepted solution]

I've been informed that the expected functionality when Num Lock is OFF will be restored in the next update. I don't know when that is coming but I think it'll be in a few weeks' time. I hope so!

[MyerPj]

Cool, Thanks very much Stefan!