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Where has the titles gone?

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April 24, 2017
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Just updated my Premiere, and whoops now the titles are gone and in stead there is "Graphics" ???

How do i make titles now???

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Correct answer Ann Bens

You either use the new Graphics or go to File / New / Legacy title to use the old one.

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Sancocho Público

Participating Frequently

How to EXPORT titles as prtl files? The export option file>export>title has disappeared. Why? Please bring it back!

jstrawn

Community Manager

Make a Graphic, right click on it in the Timeline and choose "Export as Motion Graphics Template". Then apply that from the Essential Graphics > Browse Tab.

The Legacy Titler is still intact in CC2017.1+ in order to support older projects containing Legacy Titles. But if you prefer to continue working with older features, then it is best to use older versions. PrPro 2015.4 (10.4) is the last version before Graphics began to replace the Legacy Titler. The benefits of Graphics are large though, so I recommend learning these new features when you get a chance.

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elliea84894156

Participant

In correspondence with most of the replys above: Legacy Titles are NOT our saving grace!

I was able to find it before finding this thread. Locating it is not the issue.

How nice of you to leave it there for us frustrated users who've wasted so much time trying to learn this or go back to older versions. The simple fact is that the Legacy Title is not the same as what a majority of us are wanting to revert back to.

When you click on Legacy Title it just pops a window with the title guidelines, a background based off of the program window (as it should) and the few title editing tools above it. Where's the effect controls usually on the right side? The new effect controls for titles in the new update certainly don't look the same. They seem more complicated and disorganized. I feel like I'm going cross-eyed just looking at it. And where's the title presets/templates that usually popup with the title, below the work space area?

Sure the Legacy Title provides a separate work space from the program screen to edit titles, like it did before. But that's it. I don't think the Legacy Titler is a solution for users who don't like the new way of doing titles because it's not the same at all. I went back to an older version and it won't let me open up the project I was working on. Now I'm stuck with this new version and it's wasted half of my day already.

If you disagree with me and still believe that the Legacy Title is the same as it was before then it's evident that Adobe has even made that way too difficult and complicated to use.

davidm92643928

Known Participant

Absolutely. This change coincided with a huge job of more than 100 interviews to title. It more of less doubled the time it took - I nearly cried when the deadline came and went. I’m so cross!

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elliea84894156

Participant

That's so frustrating. I'm right there with you. I came in to work today needing to get a quick title job done. I could have finished it in 2-3 hours. But I haven't even started yet and my day is almost over.

davidm92643928

Known Participant

Not getting on very well with new titlesPremier Pro. Wasted a lot of time before reverting to old one - but a lot of features missing such as - templates and make a new title from existing etc. Very cross

Peru Bob

Community Expert

I suspect that will be fixed in future updates. That's why the Legacy Titler was not removed.

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wmac01

Participant

Perfect timing! Mad deadlines that will not be made now! F!

R Neil Haugen

Legend

What is your specific problem?

There are a few things that were interrupted by the addition of the EGP, and the move of the old Titler to File/New/Legacy Title location in the main menus. You can create a custom workspace of course with the old Titler open and use pretty much as before. One apparent deletion is the exporting of the legacy titler titles. You can import them into other projects as part of an imported project file, however.

The new EGP is very confusing at first, as it's completely different as far as everything from the "approach" to the UI and where the various controls for various things are located. As that gets more fully fleshed out in another release, it will pretty much have all the old Titler capabilities. It already has some things we couldn't do before ... and is very slick and useful for some things at current.

So ... you can work the old ... you can work the new.

What issues are you having with titling specifically, so your peers around here can maybe assist you to meet those deadlines?

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

eltomate2k

Participant

Hi, thanks to the above posts I can create titles. However, I having issue finding them on my project folder. Where did the go? I can see them on my timeline, but not in the library panel. HELP!!!

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Hi Eltomate2K,

Hi, thanks to the above posts I can create titles. However, I having issue finding them on my project folder. Where did the go? I can see them on my timeline, but not in the library panel. HELP!!!

They don't exist in the project folder as the legacy titles did. Sorry for the confusion. If you create motion graphics templates, and save them to the Library, then they will appear in the Library. Does that make sense? Let us know if you need assistance on this.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

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Atlas Imagery

Participant

Is there any way to import all of my preset titles from the legacy version? I make real estate videos and use the same titles for my clients repeatedly. Why wouldn't Adobe warn us that we would lose this feature? A huge part of my workflow is gone.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

The Legacy Titler panel is still there ... File/New/Legacy Title. I hope you actually read the above posts, and viewed the linked video post, but it doesn't sound from your comments that you have.

So no, your previous workflow isn't gone. The new EGP was a bit of a startlement at first, but it does have a lot of useful things folks have been asking for for ages ... and as they get more of the features they've planned for it ready to roll, they'll bring those out in updates.

And ... use the Legacy Titler to your heart's content. I think within a year we'll mostly all be rather pleased with the new capabilities.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Atlas Imagery

Participant

Neil (and ADOBE),

I have read all of the posts. I'm aware of the legacy titler. My question is why has the legacy titler lost the capacity for custom templates (I used the wrong term when I said "presets"). I have created a custom template for each of my real estate clients with their info which I place at the end of each video. It seems I no longer have access to these or the ability to recreate them in the legacy titler. Again, I know where to find the legacy titler. The legacy titler in the new version is missing a very important feature which it used to have and which I relied on heavily.

Anyway, my two questions remain the same. Can I use my custom templates (the ones I created) in the legacy titler? And why didn't adobe warn us that we would be forced to migrate to a new set of tools while loosing the ones we are used to? This is reminiscent of the Final Cut X roll out, not nearly as bad, but in the same vein.

Thanks

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mattheww16023919

Participating Frequently

(please read fully as this isnt a negative review even though im confused...)

I had a minor meltdown when I saw this at first. I honestly thought my Premiere was broken because my titles and ability to add a title was gone, right in the middle of an edit with a producer here. It was a bit embarrassing. HOWEVER...

I think this roll out could have been done better because it is clear to me that although it is actually something I had been asking for a lot... Animated title support native inside Premiere... bits of it are seemingly hard to use right now for most of us because its a mystery area and we really do need a lot of tutorials to get around the missing stuff. I may even do one as I think a lot of people are floundering around right now.

I must say though even though the number of titles on offer seesm very limited - these can be added to from outside sources and hopefully from Adobe themselves with more offerings in the future.

One thing that isnt working well is every single title ive tried to load up so far is telling me I dont have the fonts installed and I have to click to "sync" the fonts and then re-open premiere. Perhaps Adobe should have bundled these fonts with the update... hint hint.

So after my meltdown I think we could be onto seeing this becoming a much loved change when these animations start rocking and becoming very flashy looking... so I would say stick with it folks... Premiere needs animated titles... and this is the beginning of something good happening... try and ask them to make it bigger and better and lets see Premiere rock the title world - much like Apple users have had with iMovie... we now have the first glimmers of it inside Premiere!!!! Game on.

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lukesfarm

Participant

and how do we duplicate tiles? this is bs

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Hi Lukesfarm,

and how do we duplicate tiles? this is bs

Try Alt/Option drag or copy/paste

Kind Regards,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

Byers Video

Known Participant

Swell. so who's bright idea was it to change this?

I'm sure they thought it was best for the development of the app, but what about workflow?

I know, give it some time and it will be forgotten in a few months as we adapt to it.

Ann Bens

Correct answer

Community Expert

You either use the new Graphics or go to File / New / Legacy title to use the old one.

Ann Bens

Community Expert

The New Essential Graphics Panel (April 2017) | Adobe Creative Cloud - YouTube

jstrawn

Community Manager

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Ann+Bens wrote
The New Essential Graphics Panel (April 2017) | Adobe Creative Cloud - YouTube

Note: That tutorial is mainly applicable to Motion Graphics Templates (both AE and Pr made ones) workflow, and not the Essential Graphics panel and related features in PrPro. Granted, it does show some editing of Pr Graphics as part of the mogrt workflow, but it's quick and not explicitly called out as the "Graphics Features". This would explain some of the OP's confusion.

For a more comprehensive, Pr-specific view, there are several good user tutorials out there already, including one by Josh Weiss on retooled.net and this one:

GraphicsDemo_Spring2017 on Vimeo

Note: the whole thing is a tad long (17:46) compared to the one Anne shared, but it's annotated so you can scrub around and see simple steps explained with graphic overlays if you don't want to sit through the whole banal thing.

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