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white graphics are turning grey in my timeline

  • March 28, 2025
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I just downloaded APP. Im very new at this. I uploaded a video of myself to edit to a new project.. The color was the exact same in the SOURCE (top left) box and PROGRAM (top right) box. Then when i uploaded white logos and pics that i made from canva (downloaded to my macbook), I imported them to my project. In the SOURCE box they are white but in the PROGRAM box they are grey. Everything that was white including letters became grey. All other logos like facbook, IG etc, the colors are fine in the SOURCE box but in the PROGRAM box they are dull with way less color. Then when i hit the space bar to play the video with logos overlayed, the logos become a bit bolder, but then when i hit the spacebar to pause the video, they become dull and again.

Why are pics / downloaded pics / canva made pics) changing colors to dull and grey when i upload them to my timeline (seen in the PROGRAM box, top right)?!?! Why are all my white logos and pics grey?!

Correct answer R Neil Haugen

There are a ton of things you must learn to get going, decently, in Premiere. Or any of the other major video post apps, including Avid and Resolve, Nuke, Baselight, et al. Because they are designed to be manually operated ... they have an incredible array of tools and effects, but the user is expected to want to have total, manual control.

 

Color management is a newer part of video post processing, and is absolutely a requirement to get functional. Why? Dynamic range and color space/volume will be wildly different depending on what/how the video was created.

 

Dynamic range is the total range of brightness  values between black and white. HDR ... high dynamic range ... can have anything from 200 nits brightness to 5,000 nits or above, encoded into the video file. Standard dynamic range or SDR video ... the Rec.709 we've been using in the past, and still the majority of professional broadcast/streaming media ... has 100 nits brightness encoded in the file. See the difference?

 

The array of color spaces and "volumes" produced by devices and computer apps is simply enormous these days, and also growing. It used to be that all devices worked within the constraints of the sRGB color space/volume, but now, there are many defined color spaces, and many devices actually have their own unique color space.

 

HDR for example can be still in sRGB, though rare ... or listed as Rec. 2020, 2100, HLG, PQ, or listed as a camera specific color space by Arri, Sony, Red, and several others.

 

So all these possibilities have to be checked and properly transformed to the dynamic range and color space you want to produce for your final product.

 

Most projects should still be Rec.709, as the HDR stuff is still Wild Wild West, most screens still do not do it al all, and of those that do, most do only one or two of several possible variants, and that ... neither well nor predictable. Within a couple more years that will probably change ... we all hope. But then, the colorist community thought back in 2019 that HDR would be taking over within a couple years ... um ... nope. Because the screen technologies first used simply failed quickly enough and were expensive enough to make the factories went belly up.

 

So you need your color management settings to combine to get the final result. I and others have many posts on here about color management.

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R Neil Haugen
R Neil HaugenCorrect answer
Legend
March 28, 2025

There are a ton of things you must learn to get going, decently, in Premiere. Or any of the other major video post apps, including Avid and Resolve, Nuke, Baselight, et al. Because they are designed to be manually operated ... they have an incredible array of tools and effects, but the user is expected to want to have total, manual control.

 

Color management is a newer part of video post processing, and is absolutely a requirement to get functional. Why? Dynamic range and color space/volume will be wildly different depending on what/how the video was created.

 

Dynamic range is the total range of brightness  values between black and white. HDR ... high dynamic range ... can have anything from 200 nits brightness to 5,000 nits or above, encoded into the video file. Standard dynamic range or SDR video ... the Rec.709 we've been using in the past, and still the majority of professional broadcast/streaming media ... has 100 nits brightness encoded in the file. See the difference?

 

The array of color spaces and "volumes" produced by devices and computer apps is simply enormous these days, and also growing. It used to be that all devices worked within the constraints of the sRGB color space/volume, but now, there are many defined color spaces, and many devices actually have their own unique color space.

 

HDR for example can be still in sRGB, though rare ... or listed as Rec. 2020, 2100, HLG, PQ, or listed as a camera specific color space by Arri, Sony, Red, and several others.

 

So all these possibilities have to be checked and properly transformed to the dynamic range and color space you want to produce for your final product.

 

Most projects should still be Rec.709, as the HDR stuff is still Wild Wild West, most screens still do not do it al all, and of those that do, most do only one or two of several possible variants, and that ... neither well nor predictable. Within a couple more years that will probably change ... we all hope. But then, the colorist community thought back in 2019 that HDR would be taking over within a couple years ... um ... nope. Because the screen technologies first used simply failed quickly enough and were expensive enough to make the factories went belly up.

 

So you need your color management settings to combine to get the final result. I and others have many posts on here about color management.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 28, 2025

You probably have a color space mismatch.

 

Is your sequence created from say iPhone footage? In HLG?

 

Are you working in a Rec.709 or HLG color space sequence?

 

The color management options are all in the Color Workspace's Lumetri panel. The Settings tab ... the tab named Settings.

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
March 28, 2025

I dont know what HLG or Rec709 is at all. Im brand new at Adobe Premier.  

I literally start a new project with all default settings in every category.  Nothing was changed in any color matching category from the beginning. I tried starting about 10 new projects each time it did this and its the exact same thing every time. ALL my pics, logos, all become dull in color with the whites turning to grey. IG, facebook, X logos, all become dull and the whites in those become grey also.

Peru Bob
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March 28, 2025