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Why are 'Looks' appearing different in the creative preview than program monitor?

Community Beginner ,
Jun 15, 2020 Jun 15, 2020

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When browsing looks in the Creative tab of the Lumetri Color window, the preview can look drastically different to what it looks like in the program monitor when I apply it.

This is without making any other Lumetri adjustments on any of the tabs. The preview is definitely working as I can see it change as I flick through the different looks, and the colours that come out in the program monitor (as you can see in the 2nd example below) definitely don't look right.

If you have any ideas or suggestions they'd be greatly appreciated!

Here's a couple of examples (Preview window on the right, program monitor on the left):
Looks.png

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LEGEND ,
Jun 15, 2020 Jun 15, 2020

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Does this same problem occur if you use the included looks that are provided in Lumetri versus third party?

I'm not seeing this issue, but am not using any looks other than the Adobe provided and/or camera manufacturer suppied ones.

 

MtD

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 15, 2020 Jun 15, 2020

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To be honest no, it only seems to happen with 3rd party ones, but not all of them. But I don't understand how this could happen, if the preview is reading the look properly, how is it getting messed up when being applied? 

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LEGEND ,
Jun 15, 2020 Jun 15, 2020

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Don't know, but likely the 3rd party looks are not compliant in some way - or they rely on adjustments that force the image components out of range of the format you are working with on the timeline. Just a guess -don't use luts that often.

Hang around, maybe someone will offer a solution.

MtD

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 15, 2020 Jun 15, 2020

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Thanks. I can work around it but would be interested to see if anyone has any possible solutions to offer.

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New Here ,
Mar 20, 2023 Mar 20, 2023

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I found that the preview screen only shows how the LUT will look on the raw footage. If you have added other corrections like contrast or curves, it will not be added to the LUT preview, so by switching these off the preview should look exactly like the program monitor.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 15, 2020 Jun 15, 2020

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For a user, I've got about as much experience/knowledge-of the Lumetri process as anyone. Yea, I've seen that occasionally you can get differences between the "preview" monitor and the Program monitor. I accept the accuracy of the program monitor. The preview monitor ... I'm not sure how tightly that is set in truth.

 

But then, I've never expected the preview monitor to be an end result.

 

Out of curiosity, if you go to the Creative tab's settings for Intensity of the look and back it down some, does it then look like in the preview window?

 

If you change your Premiere color managements setting in the Preference/General section (enable display color management) ... does that affect this?

 

Neil

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 18, 2020 Jun 18, 2020

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Oddly even if I reduce intensity to 0 it still comes out drastically different (see below).
I've also, on your recommendation turned on display color management, but to no avail. 
Thanks for your help but let me know if you have any other suggestions

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New Here ,
Jan 30, 2023 Jan 30, 2023

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Did you end up resolving this issue? I am having the same problem!

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 04, 2023 Feb 04, 2023

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Yep still same issue here...

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New Here ,
Aug 24, 2023 Aug 24, 2023

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Screen Shot 2023-08-24 at 3.45.54 PM.png

 

Same here it looks nothing like the preview and the other settings are all at 0

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New Here ,
Mar 31, 2023 Mar 31, 2023

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Having the same issue. Tried exporting in a wide variety of formats and tried changing the sequence settings > video preview. No luck. Feeling very dissapointed in the basic functionality of this 175 billion dollar company's flagship programs recently.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 31, 2023 Mar 31, 2023

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Do you have any other effects applied to the clip prior to previewing the LUT? 

 

I think the preview applies to the 'Source' state of the clip, as imported. But not totally sure. 

 

@Fergus H  ... comments, please?

 

Neil

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New Here ,
Mar 31, 2023 Mar 31, 2023

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I'm realizing I may have misunderstood the thread here.

 

Im having an issue where the Program monitor looks pretty dirastically different from the exported video. Its a simple mp4 video with some lumetri color adjustments, but the program monitor has more saturation and contrast and occasional strange artifacts like magenta in the shadows similar to the side-by-side from Josh. I've made sure the encoder is exporting the effects as when I overcorrect with too much contrast, the exported product appears in slightly higher contrast.

 

Kind of lost here.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 31, 2023 Mar 31, 2023

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1. What's your OS?

 

2. What are you viewing in externally?

 

3. What does the export look like on reimport into Premiere compared to the original?

 

Neil

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New Here ,
Sep 20, 2023 Sep 20, 2023

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Just stumbled upon this as I was having the same 'issue'.

 

What I realised is that when playing around with Lumetri Colour, I had mistakenly chosen a LUT in the 'Basic Correction' panel and forgotten to turn it off when selecting another LUT in the 'Creative' panel. The creative preview was obviously apply the LUT to the raw image, but my program monitor was displaying the image with both LUTs applied.

 

Feel a little foolish but happy I solved it. As other's have said, perhaps there are other corrections active that you've maybe forgotten about?

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 16, 2023 Nov 16, 2023

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Hi, experienced the same issue. For me this was solved by

1. opening the lumetric color panel
2. in the lumetric color panel select the settings tab

3 select the display color submenu

4 check the Display Color Management option. 

 

see screenshot. hope this helps!

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Nov 16, 2023 Nov 16, 2023

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 16, 2023 Nov 16, 2023

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One more thing... sorry for the fragmented post but learing as I go... you should also check the rendering project settings. depending on your selection it seems that the program screens is showing you the footage as it would show on a tv screen not a laptop screen, at least that is what I have been told 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzigjXAAyzE

 

When I select the option `mercury playback software only` option the program screen shows me the same footage as the preview screen. Also the display management option is disabeled in this case. 

 

again hope this helps.

 

 

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New Here ,
Feb 13, 2024 Feb 13, 2024

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Oh my god. Never saw the "Settings" menue next to the Edit section.

FINALLY NO PROBLEMS!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Lumetri Scopes may anyway differ from your source to program monitor. In case it does; in my case, it was caused by the crop I made from a vertical clip adjusting it into a horizontal clip. Therefore the colors displayed in your lumetri scopes monitors are different when switching between lumetri color souce and program window.

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LEGEND ,
Feb 13, 2024 Feb 13, 2024

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Lumetri scopes show the state of the clip as it exists for the active monitor, which is confusing until you understand it.

 

The Source monitor shows the clip with only any Source effects or settings, it specifically is designed NOT to show any effects applied in any sequence.

 

If the Program monitor is active,  the scopes will show the effects as applied in the active sequence.

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