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January 19, 2024
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A "show what's outside of the sequence frame" view in the Program Monitor

  • January 19, 2024
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When cutting up widescreen clips which are larger than the cropped in vertical video sequence settings, is there a way to turn on a “show what’s outside of the frame” type of view, so that I can be working in that sequence, and have the project monitor show me however much of any given clip in the timeline exists outside of the frame? These days so many of us are forced to crop into widescreen video to cut for social media short form, so I figure that there has gotta be a way to streamline the workflow in this way. I'm so tired of all of the extra clicks to view every clip in the source monitor to see if theres anything thats outside of the program monitor view that i might want to reposition for. It makes everything take a lot longer and frankly my resulting work is inferior due to getting so bogged down during editing. The process would be so much more streamlined if i could just always see whats outside of the frame. I just need some margins to show me the current sequence vertical frame, and then just display however much of any clip exists outside of that. Then I can rapidly decide to resposition any given clip in the timeline as I'm editing.

 

Please god let this be a thing!

 

Thanks!

 

Please and thanks!

 

Mod note: Title changed.

5 replies

Participant
December 21, 2024

Did you ever find a plugin or anything to achieve this in a 9x16 sequence

Known Participant
January 23, 2024

@Kevin-MonahanThanks Kevin. The auto reframe feature certainly seems like it can be useful for some, and I will play around with it, but I really need manual control! So, for the past hour or so since I made that last reply I started toying around, and I think I have figured out a solution. Or at least the best solution I'm able to come up with as of this post. Here's what I did:

 

So, at the moment i'm working with 1920x1080 source clips in a 1920x1080 sequence. So, I added two vertical guidelines (each of which I assume is 1px wide, though premiere doesn't expressly tell me that in the Add Guide popup window), one at pixel 656 and another at pixel 1264 (when counting from left to right along the 1920px width of the frame).

 

I believe this presents me with a 9:16 guide which represents what the borders of the frame will be when I edit the sequence settings before export to be 608px wide (and maintain the 1080px height, in order to achieve the 9:16 aspect ratio that I seek). I assume that when I edit the sequence to be 608 wide, it will always center that crop in, and so this will perfectly match the guide I have set up. Am I correct in that assumtion? Does this all sound right to you so far?

 

So, at this point, I've got the vertical guidelines over my 1920x1080 frame. This gets me the view my 9:16 frame view that I seek, and also allows me to see outside of the frame during my edit, so that I can always be on the lookout for any interesting stuff that I may want to reposition for. So then I got to thinking, that gee, wouldn't it be nice if i could dial the opacity up/down at will on all that exists outside of the guidelines. I figure this flexibility will allow me to "tune out the background noise" when needed, and alternatively turn it up when I am at different stages of my edit, and want to keep an eye out for stuff I might want to pull into frame. So here's what I did:

 

I created a 1920x1080 document in photoshop, and set up guidelines there in photoshop to match what I had created in premiere. Then filled the left/right "outsides" of the 9:16 frame with black, and exported as a PNG. Then I imported the PNG to Premiere, and placed on the highest video layer. And now I can play with the opacity on that layer in order to dial up/down the darkness/brightness of what sits outside of the 9:16 guidelines. So now I've got my bright colored guidelines I created, as well as an effective up/down dial on the picture itself that sits outside of frame. Definitely thinking outside of the box here, ba dum ching.

 

Here is a screenshot of what I have describe in action. This shows the teal colored guidelines that I chose, as well as the effect of the afforementioned PNG file layed on the highest video track, with the opacity turned down just enough so that i can generally make out whats outside of frame without getting too distracted during the edit. I'm curious to get your feedback on this solution I've come up with, along with any other ideas/refinements you think might help, if any.

 

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 23, 2024

Hi @Jeena22389650a1ho,

Check out the rules and guides feature in the View menu. You can set up guides to show you the vertical dimensions. You can also check out the Auto Reframe feature, which is pretty cool for repurposing widescreen formats to social formats. More info: https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/auto-reframe.html.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
Known Participant
January 23, 2024

Hey @Kevin-Monahan I just thought of something. Could I possibly keep the sequence as a larger, widescreen frame for the duration of editing, and set up custom safe margin type guidelines that show me where the vertical video crop will be? This way I can achieve the ends I'm looking for, albeit in a bit of a roundabout way? I figure that I can edit this way, and then once I am ready to export, I can simply change the sequence settings to the pixel width that I want in order to leave me with that vertical 9:16 aspect ration that I seek. So i guess I'm asking, can I create custom guidelines like this, and if so, how?

 

Thanks in advance

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 19, 2024

You can see the wireframe if you turn down the magnification and highlight the word Motion in the ECP.

Example showing widescreen, but the same goes for portrait.

You can also use the Handtool to move the image around.

 

 

Known Participant
January 20, 2024

Thanks for your reply Ann, but I don't understand why you (or someone else?) marked this as the correct answer. I clearly indicated I wanted to see whats outside of the frame. The wireframe only tells me the position of the clip outside of the frame. I want to actually see the image.

Kevin-Monahan
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 20, 2024

Hi @Jeena22389650a1ho,

Sorry about that, I marked it as correct. If you actually want to see the image outside the area of the frame, that's not available, that would be a feature request. Would you like me to move your post to the Ideas forum so you can make a feature request? Let me know.

 

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio