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Stan Jones
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May 30, 2023
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Audio Track Selection for Source Media Transcription

  • May 30, 2023
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Edit 12/15/24: Update on Multichannel Audio Transcription Support. Tests on PR Release 25.0.0 confirm that this is working for mono and stereo, and that the problem with Sony FX MXF files was fixed. Users experiencing problems should start a new thread and ask for assistance. Include information about the files used and process for transcribing.


PR Release version 24.0.0 added transcription of multiple audio channels for source media for mono, and stereo was added in Release Version 24.1.0.

 

Manual transcription occurs when right-clicking the source in the Project Panel, or using the 3 dot menu in the Text Panel.
If PR recognizes the file as having multiple channels, it adds "Channel Selection" to the options in the "Create Transcription for Source Media" dialogue. If it does not see multiple channels, you do not see that option.

 

Automatic transcription occurs when you set preferences to transcribe files when they are imported to the project or added to a sequence. It also occurs when untranscribed sources are in a sequence, and the Transcribe button is clicked in the Text Panel.


Auto-transcription uses a mix of the audio tracks. This works well as long as there is little overlap of dialogue on multiple channels.

 

An earlier post in this thread provides more detail:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-ideas/audio-track-selection-for-source-media-transcription/idc-p/14284739#M12271


Edit 10/30/23: Update on Multichannel Audio Transcription Support. PR Release version 24.0.0 added transcription of multiple audio channels for source media, but only for mono. Stereo has been added in the Beta version, and is in active development.

 

Auto-transcription still looks only at audio track one.

 

If PR recognizes the file as having multiple channels, it adds "Channel Selection" to the options in the "Create Transcription for Source Media" dialogue. If it does not see multiple channels, you do not see that option.

 

Some MXF files with multiple mono channels are not yet working correctly.

 

See these posts from staff:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta-bugs/text-based-editing-doesn-t-work-with-multiple-audio-channels/idc-p/14155069#M1380

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-ideas/audio-track-selection-for-source-media-transcription/idc-p/14113645#M11053

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-ideas/audio-track-selection-for-source-media-transcription/idc-p/14132036#M11257

 

Original Post: Text-Based Editing/Source Media Transcription as rolled out in Releaase 23.4.0 does not allow for the selection of which audio track to transcribe, but transcribes only track 1. From forum posts, users often appear to have multiple audio tracks per file, including microphone, camera(s), sound board input, etc. The workarounds quickly become onerous.

 

I recognize the difficulty, which is encountered when using nesting workaround. Instead of one transcription per clip, you must have multiple transcriptions per clip. In my experiments, the audio track picked currently for transcription is not changed by mapping audio channels etc. So any method using multiple audio tracks/transcriptions would need to name them in a way that the user could understand and track.

 

Workarounds:

 

  1. Modify the source file so the desired clip is audio track 1.
  2. Place the clip in a sequence, create a static transcription (which allows audio track selection), and then nest that sequence. That nested sequence carries the transcription and behaves like a source transcription.
  3. Select the multitrack file in the Project Panel and Clip -> Audio Options -> Extract Audio. This creates as many files as there are audio tracks, named [Filename] + Extracted.wav, [Filename] + Extracted_1.wav, etc. Note that the numbers are in revers order to the audio tracks in a sequence. For example, if there are 2 audio tracks, the file named ...Extracted_1.wav will be audio track one and the file named without the _1 will be track two.

 

Note that anytime transcribed clips are on different tracks in a timeline, the higher-ranking track (e.g. audio track 1 is higher than audio track 2) will be active.

 

If you are upvoting this idea, be sure to click the numbering box in the upper left of the thread, not just individual posts.

 

Stan

 

 

74 replies

Kerstin Ebert
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
November 7, 2023

Hi @Xzault 

happy to hear that your clip is transcribed successfully!

 

When you say that auto-scroll doesn't work, do you mean that you don't see the playback in the Text panel to be in sync with the Program or Source monitor? Does playback on the transcript work at all (do you see the blue active word bubble?)

 

Best,

Kerstin

Xzault
Participating Frequently
November 2, 2023

auto scroll doesnt seem to work after transcribe. i then created a new sequence from the clip, and auto scroll started to work. then i un-did the creation of the new seq and auto scroll is still working. 

Xzault
Participating Frequently
November 2, 2023

latest build 24.2 just transcribed for me, oh the joy, lol

Xzault
Participating Frequently
November 1, 2023

yes Sony FX6

Stan Jones
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 1, 2023

@Xzault,

 

Is your Beta 24.2.0.1? See this post re next fixes for mxf:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/premiere-pro-2024-0-not-transcribing-source-clips/idc-p/14201112#M16938

 

Is your clip from a Sony camera?

 

Thanks for continuing to post on this.

 

Stan

 

Xzault
Participating Frequently
November 1, 2023

Still does not work for me! I tried the latest beta, my audio is on channel 2,3,4 and adobe cant find/transcribe from any channel i select. now of course i can open the file in the project and hear my audio, i dont understand how this isnt a simple fix, but hey im no programmer

Stan Jones
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 31, 2023

@NPhillip, I edited my original post here to add an update. See at the top.

 

To transcribe channel 2 of a source media file, don't use auto-transcription. Right-click in the Project Panel and pick transcribe or open in the Source Monitor and switch to the transcript tab and use the 3 dot menu. If it is mono, it should show the channel selection in the transcription options. Stereo channels are supported in the Beta version.

 

This is still in active development.

 

I hear you: auto-transcription with a selection for your favorite channel might be nice. I wonder if an easier step would be to allow channel selection for multiple files (e.g. from the Project Panel).

 

Stan

 

 

Inspiring
October 30, 2023

Is there any update to this issue? I finally today updated to and tried out Premiere Pro 2024, started a new test project and imported a single game recording from Nvidia Shadowplay, which always records the mic on the 2nd track if told to separate the tracks. When I imported, it didn't give me an option to choose my transcription track, and when the import was completed, there was no transcription of the second track, only the first.

 

Without the ability to choose a transcription track, this feature is essentially useless in its current state to a huge number of users who edit their game videos with Premiere Pro. As it is, the feature isn't very intuitive. Are there any plans to make track selection at time of transcription an always-available option in an upcoming update?

Kerstin Ebert
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
October 24, 2023

Hi @Xzault,

you can send me a link to your file here in the thread or via a private message. Thank you!

Participant
October 23, 2023

I guess my problem 'enable script base edit not working' is same with this article

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