Bring back the old default track height

Hey, we're pretty much on the same page, you know?

These things are tools ... fancy hammers. That's all they are. Just a tool to use if it does what you need.

Premiere isn't an emotional thing for me, neither is any company. I don't even understand why so many folks get invested emotionally either for or against a flipping company or tool. Seems a total waste of time.

Why I'm "here" is really two-fold. First, I started 'here' to learn about the program as a noob years ago. And after having been helped by so many others, I stay around a few minutes here and there to help other users with the parts of this app I do know stuff about. 

It's the users that I care about. People like me who have to keep stuff going out the door to the nice people what pays our bills.

I have used BlackMagic's Resolve also, for quite a while. R14 I think was my first series there. I've been teaching professional R users how to work color in Premiere for years now, even R users how to work in R with non-BM panels lately. And other things for my knowledge of R has grown of course.

As a tool, other than you can do a lot of amazing color stuff easily, I don't like working in R. That is to me such an ugly, locked down, frustrating UI that it's a flipping pain to use. But a good friend thinks it's the most intuitive UI ever, wonders why anyone would ever need to use that 4,000 page manual.

Right ... sheesh. I struggle to remember all the (to me) bizarre places they bury context menus around the app. So as a tool I vastly prefer Premiere. At this time, as who knows what changes either app will make next year.

They both will make changes. Whether thee or me like them, who knows?

Yeah the thing for folks to keep in mind is that this program is just as valuable to someone like me, a video production non-professional, and a YouTuber, because we rely on these programs for our livelihood. Not everything we do is in service of a career, and hobbiests have a right to complain and give feedback as much as the pros who make a living doing this.

Next to nobody on YouTube is making money on that platform. The tiny bit of revenue I generate in a month barely offsets what I pay for the Adobe Creative Cloud subscription. I've paid for these programs since before Creative Cloud existed, and once it did, I switched to that and haven't looked back. My wife and I both use different programs in the suite and we love it.

I can tell this product is so important for you, which is why you're so involved in this Community, and my use of sarcastic quotes as a response to you earlier was more in the vein of Monty Python than Andrew Dice Clay. But that can be hard to tell in text. Keep doing what you're doing, and stay positive! 🙂

Oh, didn't mean to imply anything to your comments, and sorry if it came across to you that way.

There are quite a few users that have posted here that anyone that thought changes they didn't like were ... take your pic: non-professional, idiots, stupid YouTubers, and other things. That's all I meant to refer to. As i was explaining my post.

There's plenty of reasons for users to be frustrated to ticked with some of the changes, as I are with some.

Posting even epic rants is actually at times a cathartic thing, and I've done that too. It's just the trick to not demean anyone and maybe have a bit of humor in it.

It's at times a challenge on a forum to say something with details and a definite point of view without offending someone at times.

That's fair then. I just don't like being given a "life changes" response to concerns or complaints I have with those changes. I've been using countless programs, apps, etc since the 70s, and I've worked at many leves in IT, from technician, to engineer, to developer, and so forth. It comes off as condescending when you tell people with problems about these changes to essentially "grin and bear it."

I don't need "wise advice." I came here to voice my complaints, and give feedback here because it's the official Adobe Premiere Community, and any other forum or subreddit etc are not officially monitored by Adobe staff, and if you do voice these complaints there, the mods or other users there will just harp back with "this is not the official place for this" and they just lock the thread. And this happens to be the thread in this community which people are doing so.

edit: One other thing: nowhere did I either explicitly say, or remotely imply the people at Adobe are idiots, etc. I don't think the change is good, and I explained why. I do think it's a stupid change, and I detailed why I thought this was a bad change, but obviously they had their reasoning, and it's not a bug. In coming to this thread I learned about the workaround, and I employed it. I only came back to this thread because of your "things change" criticism to me, as if somehow I didn't understand that.

Of course not. But perhaps a bit of wisdom is to realize we are all different, period. I love the aisle discussions at NAB precisely for that, as everyone does everything different from anyone else in the discussions. 

The changes this thread discusses are not anything if which I find useful or even only mildly annoying.

But I do have the wits to realize that even though I disapprove, many others think they're great improvements.

I'm not going to insist they're all idiots because I disagree with them.

"Times they are a changing" isn't a good excuse for stupid changes. Nor is "that's life." 🤷‍♂

What is this new height with an active opacity controller for anyway? Does anyone really use it that often with such a small height? I'm trying to understand the developers' thinking.

What's really missing are the hotkeys for switching keyframes. I often switch between Pro-Q and the speed controller. And it's annoying to have to switch that with the mouse every time.

@csscms That's a great point!  Once we minimize the tracks, there's often wasted "real estate" above them that we'd rather have devoted to the Program Monitor or any other windows we might choose to have above the timeline.  Instead of manually grabbing/resizing the boundary to reclaim that real estate, your suggested featuer makes a lot of sense.

The main problem is that there's no 'Zoom to fit' for the timeline - at least, not that I can find.
 
I can fit timeline width using the \ key but can't find an option to fit track heights. I have track height presets set etc but honestly, it's convoluted compared to a simple 'Fit' command.
 
At the moment I'm using SHFT +/- and CMD +/- to see everything but a 'Fit' command would solve everything - right?

I'm still getting email notifications about this thread, so chiming in again:  those of you who don't want to create presets for your track heights and are annoyed that they now default to being too tall, simply update to latest version of Premiere, and then map the command "Minimize All Tracks" to your keyboard through "Keyboard Shortcuts" (or find the feature in the interface each time).  I've screenshot it here, mapped to my "O" button.
I consider myself a "pro" and this control is enough for me, and should be enough to satisfy the occasional user.