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P: Modifying font and font size in the interface

LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I would like to be able to change the font and font size across the board in the interface. it is WAY to small for my old eyes

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Adobe Employee , Nov 04, 2024 Nov 04, 2024

Hi everyone, thanks for the passionate feedback. Francis from Adobe here. I’m a Principal Product Manager on Premiere Pro.

 

The real talk is that yes, we did underestimate how many of you were utilizing the Console to adjust font size!

 

UI font size adjustment has been a request that’s been made for years and got shifted or re-prioritized from time to time. As your monitors have gotten larger, your requests have understandably got louder.

 

You’ve probably seen that Adobe moved to a new unifie

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Participant ,
Oct 17, 2024 Oct 17, 2024

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(Please provide a way to) change the (UI) to a size that sight-impaired, older users are able to see.

 

Mod note: Edited for content. Kindly abide by Adobe Community Guidelines. Treat community members, including Adobe employees, with courtesy. I have I have branched and moved your feature request to the Ideas forum. I will merge it with another post with the same issue.

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Participant ,
Oct 17, 2024 Oct 17, 2024

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My wife has poor vision, and has since childhood. Glasses only go so far. Even the unapproved / unsupported command only went so far, but it was a help. Not being able to make things legible might just wrap it up for her. After 30 years as a producer, I'd hate for this to be why she had to stop editing.

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Oct 18, 2024 Oct 18, 2024

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If Adobe hasn't noticed, its competitors have highly-customizable interfaces as an accomodation to all users, especially with the advent of 4k and higher monitors. Why Adobe is choosing to be a dinosaur is a mystery, and does not bode well for the longevity of the company. Before adding any more (dubious) AI capabilities and whatnot to your products, please address this glaring shortcoming. Thank you.

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Explorer ,
Oct 18, 2024 Oct 18, 2024

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why is this still a problem? unbelievable. If I change the display scaling setting on windows, all the panels and context menus become so big they become painful to use.

 

Mod note: All caps is shouting. Edited for content. Please don't do that.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 18, 2024 Oct 18, 2024

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I've been pusing for this for years. Maybe, someday?

 

But in general, every one of the pro video post apps is different. I work for/with/teach pro colorists, so for a decade, I'm in and out of both Premiere and Resolve daily.

 

Premiere allows wonderful workspace customization, which you cannot actually do in Resolve.

 

So in Premiere, I have built nine custom workspaces, and I love that.

 

In Resolve, well ... most screen segments have several bits. Like the lower left, Primary wheels, Printer Lights, Log Wheels, HDR wheels ... and you can only choose which of those is the one you see on going to the Color page. That is "customization" in Resolve.

 

Adobe allows nearly all options in the app to be ported to control surfaces, by any maker. So my Tangent Elements panel does everything from color through audio mixing to graphics size/position/rotation to ... anything.

 

Resolve ... Ok, this is totally understandable, as Resolve is 'only' a loss-leader produced to get you to buy hardware, which is where they make the necessary profit. And I've got enough BM kit to have extra licenses sitting around. I've never even needed to think about paying for Resolve Studio.

 

But their attitude on hardware is SO different. While they allow ... a few ... things of an Elements panel to function in color only! ... most color tools are not mapped to the panel, the mappings are not user-controlled, and it's only usable on the Color page.

 

You can buy BM panels, but ... they only work on one page of Resolve. The color panels do not do anything else, Fairlight audio panels cost up the wazoo, no, this is not user-customizable.

 

Premiere also has far more editing keyboard shortcuts available than Resolve.

 

The most serious place Premiere really badly needs change in customization is screen text size. There's several other things, but this to me is the worst failing.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2024 Oct 18, 2024

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Keep upvoting the thread here - the big number, upper left next to the thread title. 🙂

 

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 18, 2024 Oct 18, 2024

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This is frankly an ableist choice - it's crazy to make it harder to see your own interface

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 18, 2024 Oct 18, 2024

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I completly agree with every veteran editor struggling with the small font size. I literally tried to enlarge it today as I've done in previous versions of premier, and alas, that ability was removed. Bigger font in the project is not sufficient. We need font across the whole UI enlarged significantly.

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Explorer ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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Hey mods! Check this out and please give us an update. It's been years. Thank you 🙂

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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Hi!. I have upgraded to the 2025 version of Premiere and what is my surprise of a new UI that is very very very tiny in my system display (LG C4 48") (attached a capture to see it)

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Well, adobe have deleted the option in this new version!!!

 

WHY!?. I don´t know, but seriously, I CANNOT work with this TINY font size!!!. And the suggestion to do the scale in Windows is awful, because ALL apps and UI of Windows will be too huge in comparishon!

 

PLEASE, Adobe, do the right thing, allow us to make this trick or add an option to scale the font size of Adobe Premiere, because I cannot work with this anymore 😞

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Community Expert ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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Yes, unfortunately Adobe has removed the previous workaround to change the font size.

 

Since the release of 25.0 there has been many complaints here regarding the tiny font size in the UI and hopefully Adobe will fix it. The sooner the better IMHO.

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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Yes, I have searched later and I see A LOT of entries with this. I don´t know why Adobe ignore this, is not serious.

 

Meanwhile, I have reinstaled the 2024 version and I keep the two, but I cannot work with that tiny font!!!

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Participant ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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Adding my voice to the mix here... Adobe does anyone on your team actually use the software for actual production projects or are they only 'designing' the apps? Noticing in both Premiere 2025 and After Effects 2025 that we can no longer adjust the UI font size based on our systems. Seems like there always has to be some kind of major user experience feature that gets broken for every major update.

Please fix this since it does make the new releases basically unusable for many of us. Also, please stop releasing beta software. This should have been caught and resolved well before this ever became an issue.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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How about actually reading the words we've written?

 

"We" volunteers cannot change the policy on mentioning --, and in truth, there's good reason for most users to stay the flip outta there. As someone who's helped around here over a decade, I've had a bunch of times where I needed to go to the private messages to get someone sorted who really, really mucked up their ability to get anything done.

 

Past that, all the community types I've seen would love to have the UI font size control added. "We" tend to give practical comments as to what you can, as a user, do now, just to get working.

 

That never implies any of us would not want the change requested. It's just a practical comment.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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and I don't think anyone who's not on the programming team at adobe has a clue as to how complex the program is and how changes can have unpredictable and unintended consequences.    Every decade or so, developers of software this complex will decide to rebuild the software from the ground up to take advantage of advances in hardware and operating systems ...  if they're nice people, they maintain the previous user interface, if they're the spawn of satan they throw the baby out with the bath water...   

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LEGEND ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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First, yes, most of the devs are actaully pretty passionate video people themselves, they do edit a lot on their own.

 

Second, that wasn't a 'beta' issue, that had to have been a decision of the upper level managers. Most user don't realize that the (removed) that is the only reason it exists.

 

When they don't think they need something, it is always removed. So this could as easily been simply that "at this time we don't need to debug that parameter" without any consideration of users being affected.

 

I have always had computer glasses made with the measurement of the distance between my head and the main UI screen being the 'center of focus' area. For years now, being as yea, I'm not so young anymore.

 

So, with proper glasses, I can get by ok. That said, yes, they should make the font a user-adjustable thing. And the font color too, for better visibility by those with color issues in their vision.

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Contributor ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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I'm sorry if the community volunteers are getting grief, but who else is there to reach out to? I presume Adobe is okay with enlisting volunteers as cannon fodder while the Adobe app coders comfortably busy themselves with who knows what? More dubious AI features? They in turn are being directed by their apparently clueless managers. It would be nice to chat with Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen; maybe he could help?

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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I know you have closer contact with Adobe. Please take all our complaints about this to them. There are not four people who have this problem precisely, we are A LOT with this problem.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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Making comments about a variety of things can really weaken your main point, if the other comments are well ... not solid, perhaps.

 

Such as your Ai comment. The "Ai' is actually of course machine learning. And is used for such things as the incredibly popular text based editing process. The transcription process used is based off machine learning.

 

And a lot of the users are using the Ai things already. I've tested a couple, including the 'generative extend', myself, and that is something that as it is, is sometimes useful, and will get better.

 

And when it is useful, it can save your bacon.

 

One of the first things to understand is that we are all different, and we all work differently.

 

Something you find ridiculous might be used by someone else in a way you didn't know of, and be incredibly useful. That is constant in pro video post workflows.

 

So, I would suggest allowing that others will have vastly different viewpoints than yours. In fact, as I do, I would suggest you expect that everyone will have a different viewpoint and different working processes than you.

 

As it is both actually accurate ... and gets more polite discussions amongst users. Which are truly fascinating and informative when people are simply polite and accept they are unique.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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"Closer" is always a matter of perspective. I have been to NAB for over a decade, several MAX events, and even used to be a "community expert" until they dumped me. 

 

Yes, I have personally met a number of staffers ... as have, actually, several other "regulars" here. 

 

So? They meet a lot of users at NAB or IBC or MAX or whatever they personally attend. And each and everyone of us is always, every, simply one person.

 

Of the several million daily users.

 

So ... am one user. Period. And yeah, I've probably mentioned font size and font color to the staffers at every NAB. Haven't seen my great influence get that changed, have ya? Me neither. Dang! ( lol )

 

They base prioritization on an amazing ability to gather hard data on usage and such, along with certain "road map" concepts of where they think the app needs to move for future-proofing.

 

Getting this up that list has been a struggle, and bluntly, I don't understand why. Ah well, there's a lot about this world, and people, I don't understand, so that isn't anything new.

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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Ok, I understand, but I'm sure that the vast majority of Adobe workers who use Adobe Premiere for whatever purpose, whether they are programmers or editors, do not have a 4K monitor at 4K resolution to see Premiere "in all its greatness" in terms of UI.

 

Either they do some kind of "trick" or they convince themselves that that tiny text in the interface is fine. It's not, anyone who works in UX/UI world knows it's WRONG. But they seem to ignore this fact. The reason? No idea, but it's worrying. Years and years of people saying it here and NONE at Adobe do nothing to fix this.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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Lose the assumptions. They have a wide range of rigs to do both development and testing on. Intentionally. Across many countries, also. I keep learning of large Adobe offices in places I didn't know about.

 

But again, they do test on a remarkably wide range of gear because of the range of gear the app is used on. Including monitors. So in person, they can talk of how certain monitor sizes and scalings affect visibility of screen elements.

 

So your assumptions about either their experiences and/or motivations are invalid, in my experience and my personal awareness of some of the people.

 

And they are totally irrelevant to the main discussion anyway, so why go there? That I just don't understand. Setting motivations or whatever to people you don't know always seemed pointless to me.

 

They disagree with you and me. Ok? And based on their user data, they apparently don't see the troubles thee & me have as something we can't easily enough overcome with "local" means.

 

That we disagree with them is also clear. And ... that we need to convince them to appreciate our view more than they currently do.

 

Stick to that. It will in the end be more effective.

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Explorer ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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uh... all we want is to be able to read the words on the monitor.  Its not that complicated nor worth more than one or two paragraphs.  

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Community Expert ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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@Michael Grenadier,

 

You posted the option for accessibility/magnifier for mac. In Windows, Settings -> "ease of use" -> Magnifier - does similar things. I'll discuss it in more detail below.

 

I have great sympathy for all the users who were using the — to work around this problem. But it's gone, and we need to find a way to move on, including upvoting this Idea to provide direct control of these variables.

 

I rarely use anything other than a largish UHD monitor that works just fine for me, but Helene forced me onto my surface pro and a MUCH smaller workspace. So a few comments from that perspective.

 

The Surface Pro (omg I don't recall which model) is a 12.25 inch monitor which I am running at the (recommended) 2736 x 1824. When I tried to reduce the resolution (I don't recall by what, it may have been simple HD resolution), it was below the PR requirement.

I am going on a major trip soon and will be working on it using Lightroom and PR. So I am motivated to look at this issue.

 

For the record, I am old, have always been very near-sighted, and age-related chances have not helped much. But I have progressive lenses that provide very good correction. And I can work on the Surface in PR 2025. But it often requires careful attention and, if I were working in a production environment, would be fatiguing and difficult.

 

I have the setting for scaling ("Change the size of text, apps, and other items") at 200% (Recommended), and no advanced/custom scaling (which has caused issues in the past). Today, I changed Setting -> Ease of Access/Display -> "Make text bigger" to 125% (percent appears as you adjust). 150% creates too much text running into images etc.

 

NONE of these changes affect all the text in PR. For example, font size in the Transcript tab is controlled by the Font size slider. Font size in the Project Panel is controlled by the 3 line/hamburger menu font size option. Panel tab headers are not affected. Menu commands at the top do respond.

 

Also today, in PR, I used Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance, and set Color Theme to Darkest and Accessible color contrast to "on."

I looked again today at the Windows magnifier option. Like any aid, it has a learning curve. It is an easy on/off (Start + [Plus] and Start + [Minus]). There are numerous modes and settings. Today, I used only these few:

 

Speed 150
Zoom increments 25%
Zoom 150%

Lens mode with 60 wide 70 high

 

This works pretty well, in part since keyboard shortcuts work as if the magnifier is not there.

 

Occasionally, Start + Minus does not exit magnifier mode, but there is a small window that can be x'd out.

 

Stan

 

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Community Expert ,
Oct 19, 2024 Oct 19, 2024

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Stan, I figured there must be a similar option in Windows.   

 

This is what makes this place so valuable... 

 

The absolute dismissal of the possibility that there might be a way to make this work in windows, was daunting... 

 

if you spend any amount of time here, you quickly learn who you can trust...   and was wondering who Helene was for a few minutes.  

 

That said, yes this is a workaround that's not ideal, but my macstudio with an apple thunderbolt monitor and the easy access to the zoom feature makes it workable.   I started wearing glasse for extreme nearsightedness in the first grade...  had black and blue marks on my nose because my glasses were so heavy in the days before plastic lenses, dwas almost legally blind before I had my cataracts fixed maybe 5 years ago...   so I sympathize with everyone having difficulty reading the screen.   But this forum is about asking questions, and helping others...  and between my solution for Mac and Stan's for Windows,  hopefully we've helped a few people.    

 

People, think about how scaling the fonts etc in the interface is gonna impact so many things...  as it is, we see people complaining here because in certain screen resolutions, the save, continue, whatever options. are not on the screen.   So in some ways, the zoom feature is the ideal solution.    And so many people are using so many different combinations of hardware that it's gotta be a conundrum for Adobe to know how to proceed.  

 

Trying to remember how I discovered the zoom feature...  Feels like it's been years...   but digging into the OS and all the settings can be really valuable, not to mention all the possibilities in Premiere...    

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