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Premiere Pro CC: can blue text interface be changed back to yellow?

Enthusiast ,
Oct 06, 2014 Oct 06, 2014

Just wondering if there's an option in preferences to change the color of the interface text. It used to be yellow and now it's more difficult to see.

I notice the blue text across the entire range of updated programs: AE, PP, Photoshop, etc.

So is it a setting in the cloud itself that would allow me to change the color back to yellow?

If not, not big issue, I'll just have to get used to it. Love the new interface in any case. Much more responsive with no issues.

Thank you, Adobe!

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LEGEND ,
Oct 16, 2014 Oct 16, 2014

Thanks ... although I may have misread it, it seemed that response spoke more to the preferences and choices side of things. Again, thanks for the clarification. Clarity being, besides a nifty tool in Lightroom, something of incredible need in spoken communications ...

Neil

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Participant ,
Oct 16, 2014 Oct 16, 2014

Yes, we can roll back. However the last version of  AE had critical bugs like memory leaks, so rolling back seems counter-productive.


I find it almost insulting when somebody mentions "fixing" a problem by rolling back (to a different set of bugs and problems). That isn't a solution, it's a cop-out.

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Participant ,
Oct 16, 2014 Oct 16, 2014

To give an analogy;

Say you purchased a new car, but soon after found you couldn't drive it for as long as you wanted because the dealer changed the colour of the instruments....

How would you feel if the dealer asked you to "Drive your other car" until they got around to fixing it with the release of the next model??? Youo're still paying the finance each month, for a car you can't use.

Don't think you'd be so happy about driving your old car.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 16, 2014 Oct 16, 2014

And for further clarity ... like many of the Adobe user-base, for much of the products usabilities I am quite pleased. And I do recognize the hard work of those involved behind the Adobe curtain. Your company produces complicated and generally immensely capable (and complicated) software to be used across an astounding array of operating systems & hardware pieces. It's a right b-tard when say Apple releases a new dot-OS that throws a bunch of their user's video cards under the proverbial bus, and naturally ... your firm gets blamed when those video cards no longer "function" with your programs. Or Microsoft throws an update with a few choice gems that in some systems on a third Tuesday with a full moon but only if it's cloudy will "hang" if X effect is used on an MXF timeline, but only for Sony cams.

And ... you should have predicted these, of course. Right.

Um, how?

I also recognize the staffers around here are mostly volunteering on their own, and have been very grateful for the time they've spent.

Neil

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Engaged ,
Oct 16, 2014 Oct 16, 2014

coastalmedia wrote:

To give an analogy;

Say you purchased a new car, but soon after found you couldn't drive it for as long as you wanted because the dealer changed the colour of the instruments....

How would you feel if the dealer asked you to "Drive your other car" until they got around to fixing it with the release of the next model??? Youo're still paying the finance each month, for a car you can't use.

Don't think you'd be so happy about driving your old car.

This is the crux of the issue, for me. Adobe's subscription model is predicated on the provision of a service (working software). If they poop the bed with their software and send out a half-baked, glitchy release, the subscribers have to either deal with it, or leave. I've literally spent days troubleshooting glitches after foolishly installing a 0-day update. Adobe's usually pretty good with at least attempting to help solve the issue, but the "solution" tends to either involve rolling back the software to an earlier version (wasting time, and breaking compatibility with any projects started in the updated app) or some sort of workaround-and-wait-until-its-possibly-fixed-in-the-next-update scenario. Either way wastes our time and money.

Everybody makes mistakes, and I agree that, bugs and hilariously misguided design decisions aside, Adobe generally makes really good software. It's frustrating that the customers have to bear the weight of their mistakes, though. If I make a mistake with one of my projects, or can't deliver a finished product on time, I don't get to release a half-finished video, shrug and be, like, "I'll fix it sooner or later; in the meantime, just put the half-finished version to air. It's close enough, right?"

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People's Champ ,
Oct 16, 2014 Oct 16, 2014

Why in the world would anyone have reflective surfaces on their monitors?

I just put up a black matte to see if I had any reflection from my Dells, and I could not see anything. other than if I sat too close I could see a slight shadow on them.But sitting normally there is no shadow and no reflection. And my microphone is white.

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Advisor ,
Oct 17, 2014 Oct 17, 2014

"I find it almost insulting when somebody mentions "fixing" a problem by rolling back (to a different set of bugs and problems). That isn't a solution, it's a cop-out."

Coastalmedia. Many features in the upgrade completely locked down my system and rolling back was the only viable fix, (and I was not experiencing any issues with the previous version).  Granted no two users/systems are alike and not every suggestion will solve them all.  The rollback was virtually painless and took a few hours vs having to reinstall using disks.  So while you're elaborating on the stupid analogy of cars vs. software, (and using me for a punching bag for suggesting a fix that has helped others),  I'm getting work done.

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Explorer ,
Oct 17, 2014 Oct 17, 2014

A couple of options would help for those with colour vision problems and different monitors. Best submit a feature request...

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Explorer ,
Oct 17, 2014 Oct 17, 2014

Anyone can see and work with these bezier handle colors?
http://puu.sh/cg0m3/48cb0d54dc.png

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Engaged ,
Oct 17, 2014 Oct 17, 2014

A sneak peek at the UI for the PPro 8.2 update...!?!

Untitled-1.jpg

SO MODERN, YOU GUYS! Word is that the Beta testers are having a hard time with it, but, y'know. Whatevs.

(Don't mind me, I'm just being an a-hole... )

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Contributor ,
Oct 17, 2014 Oct 17, 2014

I honestly was like "what handles?"  Wow.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 17, 2014 Oct 17, 2014

Um ... had to take my glasses off and practically stick my nose through my monitor before I saw that there actually are handles there ... I thought this was joking ... wow.

neil

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Explorer ,
Oct 17, 2014 Oct 17, 2014

jgharding wrote:

A couple of options would help for those with colour vision problems and different monitors. Best submit a feature request...

This is much more than a features request. This is an accessibility issue. I took a couple of PP screenshots into Photoshop and looked at them with the colorblindness filters. It is blatantly obvious that Premiere has not been checked for an affliction that occurs in the population at nearly the same rate as lefthandness. Perhaps they assume that the colorblind don't edit video. (Let's hope that the next UI doesn't accidentally incapacitate all you lefties.)

By the way, please don't assume (as I first did) that Photoshop was considering colorblind users when they added those filters. No, those filters are there so that you can prepare material that is accessible to the colorblind. That's commendable but not the same thing.

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Participant ,
Oct 19, 2014 Oct 19, 2014

Peferling, I think you misunderstood the intentions of my comments, which are aimed at Adobe - not yourself.
It is a cop-out on Adobe's part to instruct us to "fix" issues in their new rollout by using an old version.
And technically it really isn't a fix, it's a bandaid to a problem with Abode's "new" software.

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Explorer ,
Oct 24, 2014 Oct 24, 2014

The little trick of brightening the interface doesn't work for me.  The blue type and the background both change, so the lack of contrast is not resolved.   I find this particularly annoying in After Effects;  it's very difficult to see that a keyframe is selected.  Very bad design decision.  Usability should trump aesthetics in any software interface. 

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Engaged ,
Oct 24, 2014 Oct 24, 2014

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who's been frustrated by this – and despite already contributing my opinion to the thread, I've now spend several weeks working through the latest AE and Premiere project, and I'm sorry... just can't get use to the blue.

To echo T Milner's point above, I constantly have to double take to see if the keyframes are selected, and have on numerous occasions waste time getting the correct group selected. The blue also doesn't pop against the gray in terms of things selected. Either because of habit or the fact that the gold just stands out better, I feel like I'm searching around a bit more for selectable text, toggles, etc... than before.

I hope that moving forward a global setting to change the blue to something else will at least be provided, now that the first step to make the interface's more uniform has been done.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 24, 2014 Oct 24, 2014

After time...I also have not grown to love "the blue" and the other  colors on the interface.

I have no eye issues unless one considers that the colors appear garish to me. 

If one uses colored markers and clips labels...the interface can look like a bad day at Play Skool.  Very un professional!  

I would much have preferred that the sensitivity of grabbing and adjusting the parameters ( as they work in AEFX)  would have been "fixed" ahead of a color palette change.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 24, 2014 Oct 24, 2014

I would much have preferred that the sensitivity of grabbing and adjusting the parameters would have been "fixed"

That still frustrates me, too.

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New Here ,
Oct 26, 2014 Oct 26, 2014

I'm someone who doesn't complain on forums. I'm also generally amenable to new UI, and am willing to give new stuff that seems unfamiliar a fair shot.

However, I simply cannot read the blue text on the dark gray background without squinting and straining. It's incredibly annoying. I'm downgrading to the previous version until there is some ability for the user to adjust the font color is added or the readability has been restored in the default color. I'm hoping by adding another voice to this that it will spur someone at Adobe to elevate the priority of this as an issue.

On a side note, thanks, Adobe, for allowing people to install previous versions of your software (unlike Apple). In this case it has allowed me to continue making progress on my project.

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Adobe Employee ,
Oct 27, 2014 Oct 27, 2014

Hi Mohr,

If you have a moment, please let the team know about your difficulties here: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
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Contributor ,
Oct 27, 2014 Oct 27, 2014

Handles.PNG

I like the new interface too, but the handles of a keyframe are really hard to see.

Also scrollbar positions are not allways easy to realize. I think, sitting 8+ hours a day in front of computerscreen is taxing enough for the eyes. A little more contrast would be fine!

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Adobe Employee ,
Oct 27, 2014 Oct 27, 2014

Hi Jojejo,

jojejo wrote:

I like the new interface too, but the handles of a keyframe are really hard to see.

Also scrollbar positions are not allways easy to realize. I think, sitting 8+ hours a day in front of computerscreen is taxing enough for the eyes. A little more contrast would be fine!

The keyframe handles is a bug. As far as the scroll bars go, I'm not aware of that one. Can you file bug reports for both? http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

Thanks,

Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
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New Here ,
Oct 27, 2014 Oct 27, 2014

Kevin,

Thanks for the URL. I have submitted info about my difficulty there.

-Paul

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 29, 2014 Oct 29, 2014

I posted this in another thread (and filed a bug report on this), but it bears repeating. We need to keep hammering away at this until Adobe changes this back.


The current version of After Effects CC with the blue colors is absolutely unusable, to me.


Here's the deal: bright blue light actually focuses in front of the retina, making it look out of focus. (You can see this effect most noticeably when you look at blue Christmas tree lights.) The blue UI elements against the gray are absolute murder on the eyes.


http://www.cclvi.org/contributions/light_and_low_vision.htm


"Blue light wavelengths and part of the blue spectrum are focused in front of the retina, while green and yellow are focused on the retina, and some red spectrum is focused behind. Thus blue light contributes little to visual acuity and visual perception loses sharpness as the blue light component adds significantly to the eye's energy expenditure for focusing, and if reduced can greatly reduce eyestrain without loss of acuity..." (Quinn, 1998)


As a person who used to work at Autodesk -- and who knows for a fact that their UI designers don't actually sit in front of the software and use it for 12 hours a day -- I have to say that Adobe's "UI refresh" smacks of marketing more than any actual familiarity with using the software in production.


Either change the colors back to what they were, or give users the option to customize the UI and change it to the previous colors, because this is just atrocious.


Until then, I'm going to have to use an earlier version of AE CC, because the current version is impossible to look at for more than 5 minutes at a time.


And whoever approved these UI changes should frankly be fired -- he/she demonstrates a complete lack of familiarity with software UI design, and how your customers use your products in production.

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Engaged ,
Oct 29, 2014 Oct 29, 2014

Between the new UI and the bugs, almost everyone I know has either reverted back to 8.0.1, or didn't install 8.1 in the first place. I'd be curious to know how many Adobe users are still on 8.0... Not that they'd share them, but Adobe must have those stats; if large numbers of their users refused to use the latest, "greatest" update, I would imagine that would help send Adobe a message, too.

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