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alexdejesus
alexdejesus
Inspiring
November 24, 2020
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Any Issues With Mac Big Sur Upgrade?

  • November 24, 2020
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Wondering if there is any reason to hold off on this upgrade? For any of the Creative Cloud apps? I'm kind of new to Macs

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1074Jackson
Participating Frequently
May 21, 2021

There have been many updates since my rant. Things appear to work better now. Reality also says that as the software evolves your equipment does not. I know that some folks never update anything. One place I know installed a sophisticated Avid system and, from past experiences, decided to never update their software so as to avoid downward degeneration of their hardware capabilities to keep up. They were able to get over 10 years of service out of their system reliably and without issues. Eventually, systems have to be updated, can't get around that. Again, the big lesson is not to update in the middle of a large project.

alexdejesus
alexdejesusAuthor
Inspiring
September 14, 2021

Just following up on the previous discussion. Is it now okay to upgrade to Big Sur and still use the Adobe apps? It seems enough time has gone by and any issues should be fixed, right?

I have not hardly touched this Macbook Pro, but I have it out now and the upgrade is staring me in the face. I would only use thhe Video Editing apps. I have no projects I'm in the middle of

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Michael Grenadier
Legend
September 14, 2021

I strongly recommend you create a bootable clone of your startup drive before doing any updates.  This way, you can restore your system to it's previous state if things go south...

this is what I use

https://bombich.com/

 

You haven't told us the specifics of your macbookpro.  Does it meet the minimum specs for Premiere

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/system-requirements.html

 

And OS and application updates often make greater demans on your system so although it may be working fine now, it may not work properly after the update.

John T Smith
Community Expert
John T SmithCommunity Expert
Community Expert
January 5, 2021

>Adobe trully let me down

 

Why are you blaming Adobe when it is Apple that DID NOT MAINTAIN BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY with existing programs?

Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
Community Expert
January 5, 2021

The software (including 3rd party effects), OS and drivers all work together.  It's not always easy, but it's up to us to make sure we have versions that work well together.  If we're lucky, we have a really good IT person well versed in the requirements of video post production to do it for us.

 

Compare notes with others.

 

If you have a stable system, don't upgrade anything mid-project.

 

If you're on Mac, take advantage of easily booting from another drive or volume.

 

For what it's worth, Carbon Copy Cloner is amazing for creating your bootable backup - not to mention backing up project and media files.

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Michael Grenadier
Legend
January 5, 2021

Warren, while I agree with you in principle about never upgrading in the middle of a project, if I followed that rule religiously, I'd still be working in fincalcut 1 cause I'm always working in multiple projects.  Although premiere does allow you to have multiple versions of premiere on your system,  it can be a royal pain switching between versions so I suggest you exercise some judgement about upgrading.  Never upgrade OS or Premiere when you're under a tight deadline.   Make a bootable backup of  your startup drive before any update so you can quickly restore your system to it's previous working state if necessary.  And when you've done your update, test your system and the project as extensively as possible.  

And there are situations where you'll have NO CHOICE.  On a Mac, if your computer dies and you have to buy a new one, more than likely you'll only be able to run the latest OS so you may not have any choice.   Windows seems a little more forgiving.

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1074Jackson
Participating Frequently
January 5, 2021

I agree!! I made the mistake of always updateing software. NOT ANYMORE. I was starting on my big year end projects when Big Sur came out. My work computer is a Mac Pro and even with Adobe's update. Looks like no one could care less about the folks with Zeon Processors. Premire ended up being such a slug I needed to do much of my work on My Decked out MacBook Pro, which I also unfortunately updated, but Premire worked better on that than the Mac Pro. The issue there was that it took over 5 hours to render out a 4 minute video. The newest Premire update fixed most of the issues but not after causing a great deal of lost time and frustration. So now Premire works better with Mac Pro but now Media Encoder crashes quite oftern. Just downloaded an older version of ME. Works better. So bottom line... Yes,  don't update anything. You may even consider getting Final Cut Pro as a backup or replacement editing program. Much cheaper than wasting tons of time (=Money) and fustration and working 20 hour days to make the deadlines. Adobe trully let me down on all accounts over the last few months. Very hard for a person who, as a professional, depends on REAL professional software. 

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    Michael Grenadier
    Legend
    January 5, 2021
    I'm working on both a windows machine and a 2012 macbookpro running
    high sierra and I've always found that I need to spend some time
    getting things to export smoothly. One thing that can make big
    difference on the windows machine is to do a complete restart before
    doing the export. Zoom sessions in particular can screw up the system
    and cause issues... but generally it can't hurt to do a restart. I
    also do smart rendering where I change my preview format to a high
    quality format like prores422 (HQ if necessary) and render the entire
    timeline and screen the timeline before exporting. this allows me to
    make sure there are hopefully no issues that will surprise me after
    spending hours doing the export. It almost always seems to save me
    time over just exporting without using previews...
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      Michael Grenadier
      Legend
      November 26, 2020

      but if you have a macpro with multiple drives, you can have multiple boot drives so you can test the waters on big sur without abandoning what's working.  You could even partition your boot drive if it's large enough...  Of course, I'm running high sierra on my macbookpro and have no idea if apple's screwed with this capability in newer machines... wouldn't surprise me.

        alexdejesus
        alexdejesusAuthor
        Inspiring
        November 26, 2020

        It's a 2019 Macbook Pro the drive is 2 TB. I hadn't thought about a dual boot option

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        Michael Grenadier
        Legend
        November 26, 2020

        that's why I get the big bucks...    The other option is to create a bootable clone of your startup drive before updating to big sur.  That way if things go south, it's not a big deal to restore the previous OS.  I use Carbon Copy Cloner for my clones but don't know if it's compatible with bigsur... 

        Alex, are you happy with your macbookpro?  trying to spec out a laptop for some friends...  premiere is working well on it?  any issues?  thanks

        MichaelHope11527285
        MichaelHope11527285
        Participating Frequently
        November 25, 2020

        This made me smile Alex...by being "new to macs", I'm not sure if you use Creative Cloud for a living as many here do. If you “need” to have fully functioning software (in my case, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, and Premiere Pro), I STRONGLY advise you wait (perhaps 6-months to a year)....until you get the all-clear from above. Typically, there is nothing in the new OS that is worth the hassle of not being able to finish a project. I came here hoping to see great news as on December 2nd, I have a replacement Mac arriving from Apple (Shanghai)....and I am terrified it will have BigSur pre-loaded....making it useless. Hold off brother. Hold off.

        alexdejesus
        alexdejesusAuthor
        Inspiring
        November 26, 2020

        Thanks for the tip. Glad I asked

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