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MyTonyTiger
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February 9, 2017
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Blu-Ray Motion Menu with end action not working correctly

  • February 9, 2017
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I'm using Encore CS5.1

I have a project with two main menus. The first menu is the first play. It has an aftereffects created animated background where the menu comes together. It has a 3:30:00 audio track that plays along with the motion. I have a second menu asset that has no motion that is the end-action of the first menu.

I do not loop the first menu at all but have the loop point at 15 seconds. This it the point in the first menu where menu buttons are available for the user to click.

When I run this in the menu preview, everything works as I intend. However, when the disc is played in any player, the video does not behave correctly. It plays the animation up to the 15 second loop point, then goes to the second menu.

I really don't want to re-loop the main menu with all the motion. I just want to do it once, but continue to replay the music (which is what the second menu does).

Has anyone attempted what I'm doing and how did you have success? Any ideas on how to fix this are appreciated.

Thanks,

Tony

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Correct answer Stan Jones

Just FYI, a menu with audio (but no video/animated background) is a "motion" menu for our purposes. It is not just a static menu. Encore must render the appropriate files beyond a static image. No matter: that is not your problem.

Bottom line: this looks like a bug. Since Encore is end of life, it will not be fixed.

The better workflow is to use the looping: If I set 2 loops (the smallest  number in the drop down), it works correctly. Is your menu two different?

More re the bug: I can replicate your result: if I set a loop point, Encore executes the end action at the loop point. In Encore preview, it works correctly. Building to a BD folder and playing with VLC player or Total Media Theater 6, it executes the end action at the loop point. It does this whether the video is the same length as the audio or not.

Encore builds 3 .m2ts files for this structure, and they are correct. One is the full length menu, one is the full length for the loop point repeat, and the third is the second menu. The instruction for the end point is in some other information in the BD file structure. (I don't know where it is, and it may or may not be editable using a third party tool - e.g. ifoedit).

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Stan Jones
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Stan JonesCommunity Expert
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February 13, 2017

You cannot continue the audio from menu one to menu two. You can have audio in menu 2, but it will start over.

What does Encore show as the length of menu 1? 3:30:00 is a long animation. I assume from what you say that the AE animation ends with the loop point or close? Are you sure that the menu length did not get set, so the audio does not define the total length?

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MyTonyTigerAuthor
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February 14, 2017

Hi Stan,

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

The animation is over at about 15 seconds, but the audio track is a full 3:27 seconds. So, I set the duration at 3:30. In Encore preview, this works great. The animation takes place, then holds with all elements in their final position within 15 seconds. It continues to play for the full 3:30, effectively playing the audio 1 full time. Then, it follows the end action to the second menu which is not a motion menu but, rather, the menu in it's final position. This second menu is set to loop forever and has the same audio track so effectively it plays the same song over and over if you left it on that screen.

However, after burning an image and playing in bluray software, or burning a disc and playing in a bluray player, it does not act this way. Instead, at the loop point of 15 seconds, it immediately goes to the end action, which is the second menu.

I have the loop point on the first menu to prevent the buttons from being enabled until the animation is complete. But I don't have any looping on the first menu

Stan Jones
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Stan JonesCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
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February 15, 2017

Just FYI, a menu with audio (but no video/animated background) is a "motion" menu for our purposes. It is not just a static menu. Encore must render the appropriate files beyond a static image. No matter: that is not your problem.

Bottom line: this looks like a bug. Since Encore is end of life, it will not be fixed.

The better workflow is to use the looping: If I set 2 loops (the smallest  number in the drop down), it works correctly. Is your menu two different?

More re the bug: I can replicate your result: if I set a loop point, Encore executes the end action at the loop point. In Encore preview, it works correctly. Building to a BD folder and playing with VLC player or Total Media Theater 6, it executes the end action at the loop point. It does this whether the video is the same length as the audio or not.

Encore builds 3 .m2ts files for this structure, and they are correct. One is the full length menu, one is the full length for the loop point repeat, and the third is the second menu. The instruction for the end point is in some other information in the BD file structure. (I don't know where it is, and it may or may not be editable using a third party tool - e.g. ifoedit).

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